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Superstraight

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Xanthangum · 06/03/2021 05:31

Superstraight is trending on twitter. No I hadn't either.

Its a subcategory of straight that means that straight people can now be included in the lgbtqi+ categories. Or something. Hooray! Fight for my superstraight rights too Stonewall!. Or something

twitter.com/supa_str8/status/1368003836863000576?s=20

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HeadIsFucked · 08/03/2021 21:42

'I can't express enough how hard it is trying to date cis people sometimes because of assumptions like these'

Interesting this view. Because, for example lets say the person who posted this is a transbian. Why do they feel the need to seek out 'cis' lesbians? Surely, dating another transbian would be exatly the same, and you wouldn;t have to worry about your partner saying no when they discover a penis? As other transbians would know this was a possibility (or even likely) so you both understand each other and can 'learn to get used to dick, its not the same with a transwoman', as it is so charmingly put to lesbians.

Weird phenomenom really. The insistence that transbians are the exact same as ..female lesbians (AKA..lesbians) yet, the hunt for a 'cis' lesbian continues. Amost as if there is something that sets transbians, and lesbians against each other, like they are not the same thing at all Hmm

SirSamuelVimes · 08/03/2021 21:44

It's a mystery, ain't it, Head? A real puzzler, that one.

(Not really. It's just a cunt.)

Datun · 08/03/2021 21:49

@nauticant

If you are in the mood for a good laugh, have a look at this:

where some trans activist gamer rants about #superstraight, actually you only need a minute or two of the inane 15 minute rant, and then read the comments in reply. The poor youtuber has not got a clue how on earth to answer the replies. Even his wife who joined in was equally lost.

I couldn't listen to that inarticulate load of gumf, but I did hear 'ha! they think this going to protect them?

I mean, I know we say it a lot, but do they ever hear themselves? Do they understand how horrifying that comes across?

nauticant · 08/03/2021 21:52

The standard response that's been mentioned in FWR many times is that if a transbian were to be confronted with a penis, reminding them of their own penis and thus triggering a nasty outbreak of dysphoria, this would justify the transbian being permitted their genital preference. Lesbians though are not permitted to have genital references.

Zinco · 08/03/2021 21:55

Not surprised, but the media want to portray it as "hate and disinformation"...

uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/social-media-trend-people-identifying-190232045.html

nauticant · 08/03/2021 22:09

All it requires is for a reader to go "I'm not sure I get this, what exactly is the transphobia here?" and if they do any thinking beyond what the article tells them they could arrive at "Hang on, apparently it's transphobic for a guy not to want to date a transwoman..."

Helleofabore · 08/03/2021 22:12

Why do the GCs always end up ultimately on the same side / in the same place as the far-right?

I am sure that whoever likes to continue to say this must then agree with the things quoted by these people in this tweet. All accurate quotes attributed to the correct person.

twitter.com/gnarlycharz/status/1368703619684589569?s=21

WarOnWomen · 08/03/2021 22:20

[quote Zinco]Not surprised, but the media want to portray it as "hate and disinformation"...

uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/social-media-trend-people-identifying-190232045.html[/quote]

Of course, it's reported as being transphobic Hmm because what else could it be, right?

I'm waiting to see how many outlets will go down the same route. Bit like watching dominoes fall really.

WarOnWomen · 08/03/2021 22:25

[quote Helleofabore]Why do the GCs always end up ultimately on the same side / in the same place as the far-right?

I am sure that whoever likes to continue to say this must then agree with the things quoted by these people in this tweet. All accurate quotes attributed to the correct person.

twitter.com/gnarlycharz/status/1368703619684589569?s=21[/quote]

Those quotes. 🤮🤬

Zinco · 08/03/2021 22:26

They have reversed the meaning of "phobia" in a way. That should be an irrational fear or hatred of something.

But when accusing someone of "transphobia", the logic is that the person is viewing the trans-women as "less female" and so phobia. But that's nothing like an irrational fear which is what a genuine phobia would be. Rather, it's someone correctly, rationally, making the real distinction that exists. (Of course whether you're attracted to them or not is a technically distinct question; but it's quite correct to view them as "less female".)

WarOnWomen · 08/03/2021 22:33

Kyle Ross, the teenager who originally posted his vid on TikTok got 2M likes on and has been banned from TikTok. He's started a GoFundme page. Good for him.

WarOnWomen · 08/03/2021 22:33

(Sorry if it's already been posted)

Helleofabore · 08/03/2021 22:37

WarOnWomen

I find the references on those quotes to little girls very disturbing.

But you know, feminists are far right aligned apparently and those insisting don’t seem to like to look at who they themselves are aligned with.

And once pointed out, they don’t acknowledge that they have aligned themselves with these people in silencing women’s discussions about upholding women’s rights for all females in the effort to ensure women and girls get the same opportunities as those born male, that we can eliminate sexist discrimination that occurs still today on account of our sexed bodies and keeping women and children safe.

But I would like to hear from those who have used that far-right argument before. Are you happy to align yourself with prominent activists who make statements that are captured in those tweets?

WarOnWomen · 08/03/2021 22:57

Hellofabore

It's lazy thinking, that's what it is. Traditionally it's mainly far right who are bigoted, ergo feminists, who are bigoted, must be far right too. This is especially so in the US.

Yet those quotes just goes to show how much women are, by some in the movement, deserved to be degraded and humiliated. "Getting fucked makes you female because fucked is what a female is." They actually say/write that and wonder why we are fighting so hard for our rights and spaces. It's sickening.

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 08/03/2021 23:10

The guy in that video - Shock

Someone put on a cape on him - he’s SuperAngry

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 08/03/2021 23:17

I’ve just donated $10 to his gofundme for his services to the SS community. I know he probably doesn’t need it, but I feel like it’s the least he deserves for shining a light on this!

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 08/03/2021 23:20

Kyle Royce that is. Not Mr SuperAngry Anime man

nauticant · 08/03/2021 23:46

I'm not a huge fan of Blaire White but I really liked their take:

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 09/03/2021 00:12

That was an interesting observation in your post re what “far right” meant in the 40’s and what it seems to mean now, JohnRokesmith.

And also, everything on your list from the 40’s could now be said some of the new “woke” authoritarians/those who identify as left wing today:

  • Against democracy
  • In favour of censorship
  • Thinks women should know their place
  • Hostile to Jews
  • In favour of political violence for the right causes

Strange times indeed.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 09/03/2021 00:16

[quote Helleofabore]Why do the GCs always end up ultimately on the same side / in the same place as the far-right?

I am sure that whoever likes to continue to say this must then agree with the things quoted by these people in this tweet. All accurate quotes attributed to the correct person.

twitter.com/gnarlycharz/status/1368703619684589569?s=21[/quote]
Those quotes!!

I hadn’t seen most of those. Bloody hell.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 09/03/2021 00:26

Going back to this post from Sunday morning (07.28):

To your question "Where does that leave the lesbians?", here's the answer: when I came out 25 years ago, Brighton's lesbian bars and nights welcomed me with open arms and I found friends and potential partners. The fun we had. Today? I can't think of one lesbian bar in town. The trans flag is everywhere and it's very clear that if you don't sing the TWAW mantra, you are very unwelcome. I went to one lesbian live music event in 2019 and the main act was a TW. I'm very thankful that I am in a loving long-term relationship and too knackered most of the time to want to go out, but I feel for young lesbians who will never know the joy of a bar or a club packed with women.

Genderrebel I’m really sorry to hear this. It’s a familiar story these days, isn’t it? Not a lesbian myself but I hear this over and over again, from friends who are lesbians, and online. I used to go to women’s nights/clubs back in the 80’s and it was so amazing being free of the male gaze in a public place, even without the possibility of finding partners, even without needing a space apart from the rest of the world where my sexuality was the norm. The loss of these places is sad for all women, but for lesbians it’s a monumental loss. It really is lesbian erasure. And the cruellest thing is that it has been perpetrated by the community you created and nurtured.

I hope that the tide will turn soon and that “superlesbians” (aka lesbians) will create a new community that is actually yours once again. I hear there is already a growing “underground” network, but there need to be resources that are public and open - to lesbians and bi women.

And I hope we will likewise see a resurgence of actual women-only spaces and initiatives of all kinds. I think maybe there will need to be a test case around this too - I would like to have it established as a human right for women to have strictly biologically female only spaces/provisions as a means of redressing our disadvantage, in the same way other disadvantaged groups should likewise be able to. Something wider in scope than the current EA exemptions.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 09/03/2021 00:27

Oh and btw...thank you all who appreciated my post from the other night, it always means a lot to know I’ve struck a chord. I raise a glass to you all Wine

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 09/03/2021 01:45

@HeadIsFucked

'I can't express enough how hard it is trying to date cis people sometimes because of assumptions like these'

Interesting this view. Because, for example lets say the person who posted this is a transbian. Why do they feel the need to seek out 'cis' lesbians? Surely, dating another transbian would be exatly the same, and you wouldn;t have to worry about your partner saying no when they discover a penis? As other transbians would know this was a possibility (or even likely) so you both understand each other and can 'learn to get used to dick, its not the same with a transwoman', as it is so charmingly put to lesbians.

Weird phenomenom really. The insistence that transbians are the exact same as ..female lesbians (AKA..lesbians) yet, the hunt for a 'cis' lesbian continues. Amost as if there is something that sets transbians, and lesbians against each other, like they are not the same thing at all Hmm

They don't want to date each other because it's insufficiently validating for them.

So yeah, they definitely know there is a difference BUT they can't admit to it because internalised trasnphobia and also they'd have to acknowledge biological essentialism which isn't what they do - AND they'd have to acknowledge that they're still effectively heterosexual, not homosexual, which they can't do.

Bit stuck really, aren't they.

Bluebell798 · 09/03/2021 04:01

So happy to see this! Shout out to all my #Superkin. Loving the Subreddit. Hope they manage to police it and keep it going.
There's a link in there to a Tumblr page full of TRAs talking about the 'cotton ceiling ' and reading it just about melted my brain. What awful, hateful, rape-promoting rhetoric. 'I was able to get past my 'genital preference' so anybody can'. And they have the gall to talk about 'conversion therapy '.

MoleSmokes · 09/03/2021 04:31

@CorvusPurpureus

I've got one of those bolshy 16yo boy thingies.

He's very much on board with the original Tiktok-er - says he sounds like a bit of a gobshite (ironic coming from ds who is a definite gold medalist in that respect), but that he made a fair point.

& that was very much it, a couple of days ago.

It was being widely shared round ds & dd1's y12 & y10 social circles to general approval, though.

The threats to the original TikTok-er's mum were a game changer, apparently.

Ds is bloody incandescent at the thought that anyone would come for me because of anything he posted on SM. Dd1 is like 'well, yes, db, that is how these people roll, actually, what rock have you been asleep under?'

Ds: he & his pals are all now superstraight apparently, except the one supergay in the gang around whom they are circling the wagons because he's been given some right shite on Twitter, which they are righteously pissed off about as a friendship group.

Dd1: 'I'll make my own mind up in my own time, thank you very much. I'm supermindyourown.'

Ds & me: 'supermindyourown is totes valid!' Grin

Superkids! Grin

They are the future so it's pretty bloody obvious who is on the wrong side of history! Grin

Big thank you to Xanthangum for the OP.

Superstraight went global yesterday with #SuperStraightIndia and there are probably more now.

BUT . . . r/SuperStraight has been captured by the SuperPhobes Angry

The profile says "Good job r/superstraightphobia, ya’ll won"

Dammit!!

r/SuperStraight is Private but they hacked in somehow.

I don't that it going to be the end of this though.

This post has got over 1K upvotes with people from all over the world commenting Smile

"It’s absolutely hilarious how this place is unironically so diverse in terms of race/gender/sexuality. Almost like everyone sees through the bullshit not just white men like they claim."
"As a black SuperStraight I just wanna say that this place is great its gonna suck when it gets banned"

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