Superstraight

[Xanthangum]

Superstraight is trending on twitter. No I hadn't either.

Its a subcategory of straight that means that straight people can now be included in the lgbtqi+ categories. Or something. Hooray! Fight for my superstraight rights too Stonewall!. Or something

twitter.com/supa_str8/status/1368003836863000576?s=20

We prefer the terms "subgays", "sublesbians" and "subbisexuals".

(Sub is a Latin prefix, meaning the opposite of "super").

I wonder how the teenager that did the original tik tok video is getting on. His idea has gone superviral, which must be amazing to him, but he's dealing with threats to his mother, it must be a very strange moment for him.

Today there are legal proceedings taking place (in the UK) with regards to gay-conversion.

Does anyone have a link to a thread here?

It could be a Judicial Review.

You might have some luck here:

parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/75acc606-ef6d-440f-9b56-0e68ca129d77

The debate is supposed to start in 20 minutes.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4184395-Parliamentary-debate-on-Monday-to-ban-gay-conversion-therapy?watched=1&msgid=105378021#105378021

Parliamentary debate. Today.

Thanks.

The conversion therapy item is a parliamentary debate today (8/3/21)

committees.parliament.uk/committee/326/petitions-committee/news/150527/mps-to-debate-petition-relating-to-conversion-therapy/

I don't think it's started yet. Will be interesting to see their definitions- according to Tavistock whistle blowers, often homophobia drives gay children to want to transition, therefore medical or surgical transition treatment (or affirmation) can itself be conversion therapy.

@Lisz

Why do the GCs always end up ultimately on the same side / in the same place as the far-right? There's a hollowness behind the 'laughter' (such as it is) and these bursts of fake-outrage never last more than a couple of weeks anyway ('straight pride' etc). It hardly seems worth gettng into bed with the 4Chan fratboys, i mean if only for sake of one's dignity if nothing else.

I guess when the left decides to abandon women the right see an opportunity to move in?

"How can you possibly think it's unfair for males to compete against women in female sports. Don't you know right wingers are saying that too?"

Maybe you should wonder why large parts of the left no longer believe in fairness?

Why do the GCs always end up ultimately on the same side / in the same place as the far-right?

What kind of argument is that? You're saying it's the far left who approve of male rapists in women's prisons and dismantling the equality act?

I've got one of those bolshy 16yo boy thingies.

He's very much on board with the original Tiktok-er - says he sounds like a bit of a gobshite (ironic coming from ds who is a definite gold medalist in that respect), but that he made a fair point.

& that was very much it, a couple of days ago.

It was being widely shared round ds & dd1's y12 & y10 social circles to general approval, though.

The threats to the original TikTok-er's mum were a game changer, apparently.

Ds is bloody incandescent at the thought that anyone would come for me because of anything he posted on SM. Dd1 is like 'well, yes, db, that is how these people roll, actually, what rock have you been asleep under?'

Ds: he & his pals are all now superstraight apparently, except the one supergay in the gang around whom they are circling the wagons because he's been given some right shite on Twitter, which they are righteously pissed off about as a friendship group.

Dd1: 'I'll make my own mind up in my own time, thank you very much. I'm supermindyourown.'

Ds & me: 'supermindyourown is totes valid!'

@Carolina24

It’s an obvious parody, and embarrassing for anyone who couldn’t recognise that right away.

TRA rhetoric is so insane it is indistinguishable from satire

Thing is it might well have started as parody, but I'm struggling to find a single thing about it that doesn't work (TRAs vehemently objecting to it, isn't it).

It can easily be adopted. The BBC legitimised 100 genders - this will be a piece of cake.

It's certainly needed. I need it.

The left is useless now, join the Superleft.

I've been busy recently and I've missed this. I don't understand it. Is superstraight the new heterosexual? Or is this all a piss take?

Why do the GCs always end up ultimately on the same side / in the same place as the far-right?

Honestly, what is more likely. That a whole group of left leaning women, including lesbians, to suddenly become aligned with 'far-right' or that there is some significant and legitimate issues that many groups are concerned about.

I think those throwing around the 'aligned with the far right' scare tactics need to also then look at who is directly aligned with pro-trans rights movement. Activists being lauded despite their bullying and name calling of women (one even called lesbians hairy and barren). Activists advocating for the legitimising of activities that actively harm women and children, such as the lowering of the age of extreme porn actors, and in fact advocating for the legalising of extreme porn. Activists who go into schools with histories of supporting intergenerational sex acts. Activists making clearly misogynistic statements. Maybe you'd like to address these past activities?

What about how women protesting about sex trafficking in prostitution and the porn industry were attacked and trans supporting slogans written on historic statues in Paris yesterday? Are those supporters something that you are happy to discuss?

I want to also say, that there are many trans people who are not in support of, or at least not fully, some of the mantras, the extreme political moves etc. I do make a distinction between activists (why may and may not be trans) and trans people.

I do not think that anyone who is quite well versed in the past (and current) activities of prominent activists feel that being told that some far-right supporters also support some of the initiatives of feminists merits concern. Again, like other terms, statements about political alignment and funding have been so overused it can easily be ignored with a skerrick of reading.

Started as parody but has hit a vein of truth. As the best parody does.
Due to the colonisation of words that used to have common meaning, the idea of a new twist to simple definitions of orientation based on sex and gender presentation. So old meaning of 'straight' i.e opposite sex attraction = shiny new superstraight.

@minchinfin

I've been busy recently and I've missed this. I don't understand it. Is superstraight the new heterosexual? Or is this all a piss take?

A sixteen year old boy decided he needed a sexual orientation that relies on sex. He didn't want to include males who identify as female in his orientation.

'Straight' has been purloined as an orientation based on gender. So can be two people of the same sex. So that doesn't work for him.

He coined 'superb straight'. 'Straight' in old, pre TRA, money. But now, very specific about being sex based.

People who don't want sexual orientation to be based on sex are angry.

Hence lots of other people coming out as super lesbian, super gay, etc. It just means based on sex, not gender.

Started as a bit of wistful parody. But actually works as a thing.

Sorry Beamur cross post!

@minchinfin

I've been busy recently and I've missed this. I don't understand it. Is superstraight the new heterosexual? Or is this all a piss take?

It's as serious as the transgender people are. They could be taking the piss, but people are taking them seriously. I can't see any reason to take superfolks more or less seriously.

In some senses it is "just" heterosexuality (and homosexuality) - there have been super people throughout history. (I understand a Super handed Marsha whoever-it-was the first brick at Stonewall).

But we've sharpened up the definitions to be absolutely clear who we are, that we're valid, and to demand acceptance of supersexuality among the broader umbrella of sexual orientation/gender identity stuff. Sexual attraction on the basis of sex is key to our identity and we shouldn't be shamed for it.

It's time to stand up, as a unified LGBS community, and fight the incipient superphobia we've seen creeping into institutions and policy.

Why do the GCs always end up ultimately on the same side / in the same place as the far-right?

Isn't this just the recycled argument for "why are feminists anti-prostitution, that's a conservative right-wing position"

and who was the original parodier? A 16y old boy on tik tok or is that BS? If it's true, I have to say he's captured the zeitgeist from most of the 16y old boys I know.

@minchinfin

and who was the original parodier? A 16y old boy on tik tok or is that BS? If it's true, I have to say he's captured the zeitgeist from most of the 16y old boys I know.

Yes! And it was only about an 11 second clip.

He took it down because his mum was threatened with death and her business targetted.

I love how the young are completely onboard with this. At the end of the day, it has so much to do with consent and the right to define your own sexuality.

I am also constantly amazed at how stupid some of the TRAs are. Their behaviour has been going under the radar for many for so long. When they finally are exposed, how do they react? By death threats to a boy’s mum and by threatening to rape heterosexual males.

I have seen so many people waking up to how completely unacceptable the behaviour has been. So many comments along the lines “I had no idea what lesbians had to put up with, I am so sorry, I have your back now”.

Good for him! I am finding this hilarious.

I just asked my 16y old boy about it and he said, and I quote, when I do it will be with a girl and I'm not going to apologise for that. Fair play.

I don’t see it as parody at all

It’s reclaiming