twitch and 'womnx'

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I'm so confused about all the circularity of this my mind is boggling.

I do not like the word Womnx. I like the word 'woman'.

Seems the trans community doesn't like it either and they have branded twitch transphobic.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56251452

Just read this, at least we're all in agreement that it's shit.
It's not like Latinx as that's correcting the fact that Latino (male) is used to mean men or women I believe

I think this hilarious. Companies/organisations trying too hard to be seen to be inclusive, and it turns out nobody likes "womxn".

But I thought the whole point (according to them) was that womxn was more inclusive!
Women complain - nothing happens, we're told off for being too sensitive and transphobic yada yada.
The trans community complains about EXACTLY THE SAME THING and it gets changed.

@Parkandride

Just read this, at least we're all in agreement that it's shit. It's not like Latinx as that's correcting the fact that Latino (male) is used to mean men or women I believe

Though apparently most "latinx" people hate the term.

The one I really don't get is "folx". Folks is already unisex so what's the point?

Though apparently most "latinx" people hate the term.

Do they?

I'm sure a couple of years ago there were lots of organisations womxning all over the place, when women said they didn't like the term they were told "tough". But if it's transphobic it'll be got rid of right away.

is womnx different to womxn?

or just a typo?

so hard to tell

does twitch give a shit what actual women think?

I'm seeing people blaming ''terfs'' for inventing the word womxn to exclude transwomen...🙄

Someone might wanna tell UN Women and TedxLondon. I didn't see many TRAs harassing them for using ''terfspeak'' a while back. In fact, it was celebrated🤔

When women complained about the ridiculous word, we were told we're being exclusionary, bigoted bitches, how dare we not accept this inclusive, impossible to pronounce word! Now that a trans person doesn't like the word, of course it's all our fault.

Hopefully orgs will start realising they really can't win with this. The movement seems to start again from scratch daily, and everything they said the previous day doesn't stand anymore. Very easy to put your foot in it and do a wrongthink when the rules can change in a nanosecond...

@BlueBrush

I think this hilarious. Companies/organisations trying too hard to be seen to be inclusive, and it turns out nobody likes "womxn".

I don't know how that wasn't obvious from the get go.

Setting aside any other arguments or objections I can't see that anyone who says they are:-

a woman;
a trans woman; or
a transwoman (which some trans people do use)

got any benefit out of this.

I wonder if the ultra-woke Bernardine Evaristo, who refers all the time to "womxn", will take note.

I remember Greenpeace using womxn and I stopped donating.

Seeing as some people don't like it shall we start using womXXn instead?

Men who identitfy as women, don't like the word womxn. Because they want our word!

It's not like Latinx as that's correcting the fact that Latino (male) is used to mean men or women I believe

However...

www.motherjones.com/media/2019/06/digging-into-the-messy-history-of-latinx-helped-me-embrace-my-complex-identity/

"In November 2015, the Phoenix, Swarthmore College’s student newspaper, published a widely shared rebuke of the term. Student authors Gilbert Guerra and Gilbert Orbea described “Latinx” as a “blatant form of linguistic imperialism”—and claimed it was an attempt to force American ideals onto people living in Latin America because it wasn’t tailored to native Spanish speakers. Though the letter “x” in Spanish can take on a pronunciation similar to the English “x,” it can also take on an “s” sound, or an “h” sound, as with the Mexican state of Oaxaca. “By replacing o’s and a’s with x’s, the word ‘Latinx’ is rendered laughably incomprehensible to any Spanish speaker without some fluency in English,” they wrote. “It does not provide a gender-neutral alternative for Spanish-speaking non-binary individuals and thus excludes them.”

The absolute gall of them to say "womxn" is something we supported when they foisted it on us. Now they realise no woman wants "womxn", they blame us for it.

I'm taking home the point from this, that they actually don't know what they want, but the only thing they do know is that they want to be calling the shots. Always. So when they get one result, they'll change the demands because then they retain the power. It's basically an exercise in seeing how much power they can wield over anybody and everybody else, isn't it?

After initially laughing at the sheer stupidity of it all I then actually came to the same place as MsOgyny that it is all about power.

This honestly seems like something out of the narcissist's play book. Always keeping people walking on eggshells, never certain about what is wrong or right. Yesterday 'womxn' was progressive and if you complained about it you were a transphobe (incidentally, if you have an account on the dating site "Her' they ONLY accept womxn - you can't call yourself a woman.) Today, 'womxn' is disavowed and was invented by the transphobes. They do this all the time. Remember when 'born in the wrong body' was a sensitive metaphor to describe the realities of being transgender? And then randomly it was deemed offensive and made up by transphobes! There is literally no winning because that is entirely the point..

@BlueBrush

I think this hilarious. Companies/organisations trying too hard to be seen to be inclusive, and it turns out nobody likes "womxn".

I had a proper laugh at the TRAs frothing about this.

I never hear this fucking shit spouted about the word 'men'z
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@CarlottaValdez

Though apparently most "latinx" people hate the term.

Do they?

Apparently so. www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Over-90-of-Hispanics-and-Latinos-don-t-like-to-15899232.php I’ve only heard white people use the term.

Everyone seems to hate womxn. I’ve seen it being blamed on the big bad t*rfs as well as the superwoke. Finally, something we all agree on.

Newsnight 2018. Sophie Cook explains that 'womxn' makes it inclusive to WoC (!!) and men who identify as trans. twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1050146831571644416?s=20

I prefer words I can pronounce

Womyn (which is also mentioned in the article) was once considered a progressive feminist term which removed the patriarchal "men" from the word. Now it's offensive. Can we have an annual guide to what is offensive or not please?

[quote MaudTheInvincible]Newsnight 2018. Sophie Cook explains that 'womxn' makes it inclusive to WoC (!!) and men who identify as trans. twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1050146831571644416?s=20[/quote]
😲 I really can't imagine many people outside of Louis Theroux documentaries that would need a separate word to include women of colour. Astonishingly racist.

And yet when I (and others) complained about this word being used for an event a while back I was basically told to stop whining like a baby (I paraphrase).