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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How many women (or men) identify as cisgender?

485 replies

hallouminatus · 17/02/2021 21:02

On another forum, I said "Most women don't identify as cisgender, and many feel that describing them as such is disrespectful". Someone has asked me for evidence of this. I think it's probably true, but I haven't seen any statistics or even estimates of numbers. I'm interested in any evidence or arguments which would either support or refute my statement.

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bootlebum · 17/02/2021 22:00

Nope and would be offended if anyone referred to me as cisgender. I am a woman and was born a human female.

sleepyhead · 17/02/2021 22:01

Nope. My mum brought me up not to force myself into boxes.

I'm female because I was born that way, but my preferences and responses to society are my own and personal to me.

nzborn · 17/02/2021 22:01

I'm a woman nothing else nothing more.

nzborn · 17/02/2021 22:02

Whoops nothing more nothing less

midgedude · 17/02/2021 22:03

I suspect that it's telling something that men may be much more likely to be happy assuming most people are cis gender than women who perhaps suffer more from gender assumptions?

Labobo · 17/02/2021 22:06

I don't. It gives me the creeps that some tiny sector of society has decided that they have the right to redefine what I am and get angry if I don't conform. I am a woman.

Thelnebriati · 17/02/2021 22:09

Someone has asked me for evidence of this.

Sometimes a demand for evidence can be disingenuous, so the first thing to do is ask them 'what evidence would you accept?' and see if their response is reasonable or not.

In this case obviously there aren't any studies or statistics, but the 'proof' is that 'cisgender' is not commonly used. You don't see the majority of people using it.
Its not a legal term, and it isn't used in equality law. The equality act refers to men and women. Even the gender recognition act doesn't use 'cis'. Its a term most women won't have heard of.

justanotherneighinparadise · 17/02/2021 22:10

I am not a subsection of my sex.

VioletAlder · 17/02/2021 22:14

No. I am very definitely not 'cis'.

Landlockedgirl · 17/02/2021 22:17

Nope, just nope.

ValancyRedfern · 17/02/2021 22:20

I think most women have never heard the phrase and have no idea what it means. The only people I know who know the term are mumsnetters and under 25s. I certainly reject it now, but when I first heard it I didn't give it much thought, thinking of it as the the equivalent of straight meaning 'not gay'

Soontobe60 · 17/02/2021 22:24

Woman / adult human female here. Not ‘cis’

Desperatelyseekingreason · 17/02/2021 22:24

Women have spent decades trying to dismantle stereotypes. Personally I refuse to help turn the clock back so no, I'm not CIS anything.

RedcurrantPuff · 17/02/2021 22:28

@gingercatsarebest

I do not identify as cis And I object to being called cis
This.

If anyone refers to me as such I will correct them. If every other bloody group in society gets to choose what descriptors are applied to them so do I.

WendyTestaburger · 17/02/2021 22:30

@MichelleofzeResistance

I find this word extremely offensive. It implies that I associate with the gender stereotypes and voluntarily embrace the disadvantage that comes with my sex. I don't.

I also don't appreciate labels being applied to me that I didn't choose and don't agree with.

I also don't think it's a good thing for women to be relegated to a subset of their own sex.

This is a banned word on this forum under the guidelines because so many women find it offensive, although in the past few weeks it's been increasingly creeping in unchallenged. As we're deleted for the slightest hint of a transgression in language that a trans person may be offended by or find uncivil, it's reasonable to expect that women who find this form of language have their feelings equally respected. The same stringent standards should be equally applied.

This!
Campions · 17/02/2021 22:30

I have, and will always correct anyone who refers to me as cis. I'm a woman.

Yebanksandbraes · 17/02/2021 22:31

Yes, I am cisgender. I have no problem being described as such, it is an accurate representation of who I am.

SylviaPlath1984 · 17/02/2021 22:31

@GoldenBlue

I very strongly do not identify as CIS gender and would feel insulted if called CIS.

I am not a subclass of women, alongside men. I am a woman. It does not need any qualifier

This x 100000000
MashNgravy · 17/02/2021 22:32

Don't call me "cis", I'm a woman.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 17/02/2021 22:34

No. Cisgender is offensive as well as unrealistic.

Enidblyton1 · 17/02/2021 22:34

I wonder who came up with the word CIS? It’s so ugly!
I shall pretend I never stumbled across this thread and forget about such a ridiculous word. Let’s hope it goes out of fashion quickly.

BatleyTownswomensGuild · 17/02/2021 22:34

I hate the phrase cis-woman. I won't use it.

Splann · 17/02/2021 22:43

I’m a woman, no further clarification is needed.

Why can’t people who identify as something they weren’t born as refer to themselves as non-cis whatever? Why do I have to change what I call myself when I’m not the one changing?

Pet8 · 17/02/2021 22:44

I hate the word "cis". I am woman.

KittiesInsane · 17/02/2021 22:48

If you want a fairly unbiased sample, I’m reliably informed by someone who does NHS software that if a form has both sex and gender on it, ‘no bloody bugger knows what to do with the gender box and it screws up the data.’

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