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Poor woman, she must have been so scared.

151 replies

TheLetterZ · 15/02/2021 17:38

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56071168

Another man who accidentally killed his wife as he ‘flipped’. She was trying to leave, he must have stopped her then strangled her.

I do hope that with the manslaughter sentence he will still have punishment but fear with diminished responsibility he won’t.

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RainingBatsAndFrogs · 15/02/2021 17:41

FFS.

Doesn't it take 3 minutes to strangle someone? 3 minutes without air? 3 minutes is a LONG time to be 'flipped'.

ParkheadParadise · 15/02/2021 17:41

The Justice system is a joke in this country.

Ornamentalcabbages · 15/02/2021 17:43

Awful. I can't understand what else he could have done for this to be considered murder! As PP said, strangulation is not a quick knee-jerk reaction when you "flip", it involves a prolonged intention...

Truthlikeness · 15/02/2021 17:43

If lack of sleep is a valid reason to kill someone, one wonders why there aren't more new mothers in prison.

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 15/02/2021 17:43

I am timing 3 minutes now.

It is an unbearable length of time, and way too long to be in a moment of anger.

StrangeLookingParasite · 15/02/2021 17:47

Look at that. You can actually murder someone, and get away with it, claiming you 'lost it'.
I wish I could say I can't believe it, but I can.

Cabinfever10 · 15/02/2021 17:47

So a man can attack his wife upstairs in a bedroom then chase her down to the front porch and strangle her to death but that's not murder🤬

Bearsinmotion · 15/02/2021 17:49

It’s worse than that RainingBatsAndFrogs, he attacked her in the bedroom, she managed to get downstairs and find her keys, then he caught her and did it again. So you probably want to at least double your three minutes.

pettyprudence · 15/02/2021 17:50

It was more than strangling though, it was a sustained attack that started upstairs and she tried to escape, that's when he strangled her, when she was halfway out the door with her keys. I really don't understand (well I do) how men keep getting away with this Sad
www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/pensioner-who-fatally-choked-living-19841734

31RooCambon · 15/02/2021 17:53

This is so sad. If you kill somebody who is trying to get away from you but you won't let them, then that has to be murder. In my opinion.

Manslaughter is too lenient. It may not have been ''pre-meditated'' but how can a woman escape if The Escape is not seen as her right.

AntiHop · 15/02/2021 17:54

I'm so angry that he said "I wouldn't hurt a fly" shortly after killing her.

BarbaraofKent · 15/02/2021 17:55

'Wouldn't hurt a fly' my fucking arse.

So sick of reading these stories, so sick of men getting away with murder.

RIP Ruth.

31RooCambon · 15/02/2021 17:57

Wow, he said he wouldn't hurt a fly??. If I'd been the judge I would have added an extra five years for his absolute delusion. He killed a woman trying to get away from him and yet still identifies as a man who wouldn't hurt (a fly).

31RooCambon · 15/02/2021 17:58

If he hadn't wanted his anger to get the better of him then he would have LET HER ESCAPE. But he used his force to prevent her from leaving. So that is a type of premeditation.

God. What is wrong with these judges.

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 15/02/2021 18:01

Yes, I have done some more reading now.

A trained assassin could strangle someone in 4-5 minutes.

Otherwise, with someone struggling, probably 7-9 minutes.

Labobo · 15/02/2021 18:03

I know someone who barely escaped with her life last year. Her ex was let off with a suspended sentence because he was a nice middle class educated man so, according to the judge, unlikely to do it again. I wouldn't dare invent such a cliche of a bigoted old male in charge but they are thriving in positions of power in the UK in 2021.

31RooCambon · 15/02/2021 18:03

He was determined to kill her.

Parky04 · 15/02/2021 18:04

Why are posters blaming the judge? The jury made the decision!

Levirandal · 15/02/2021 18:07

Women generally do a lot of the care of young children. So they’re sleep deprived and some have depression and PND. I’m a carer to three kids and two have special needs. The youngest has very complex needs. I also work and am stressed 90% of the time but I’m not flipping out and murdering people. It feels like they’re almost using the saying “boys will be boys”. Why is this acceptable?! I’m so sick of fucking men getting away with this. That poor women.

Gcnq · 15/02/2021 18:07

It's yet another article written to garner sympathy for a male murderer. Full of "He was worried" "he didn't mean it". Well we've all been worried about Covid we don't murder the partner we married do we.
Unless you happen to be male in which case chances of murdering your wife has increased by 50% since April lockdown.

HopeClearwater · 15/02/2021 18:07

The judge directs the jury.

SirSamuelVimes · 15/02/2021 18:09

Women: Your Lives Don't Matter.

They may as well write it in stone and display it outside the courts.

yourhairiswinterfire · 15/02/2021 18:10

He said he killed his wife because he was worrying about losing his house, despite the mortgage being paid off, and because of money troubles despite having £148,000 in savings. And they fell for those excuses.

Strangulation usually isn't an isolated incident. A good man who ''wouldn't hurt a fly'' doesn't go from being a loving, caring husband one day, to strangling his wife hard enough to break 3 bones in her neck because he hasn't slept well for a few nights the next. The force, the fact that he chased her downstairs to continue his attack tells a different story to the one he does.

Absolutely disgraceful.

ASimpleLobsterHat · 15/02/2021 18:12

I knew what this would be about just by the title. I’m glad others read that article and thought “wtf have I just read”. I too can’t understand how he got away with this (other than the obvious of him being male).

FemaleAndLearning · 15/02/2021 18:16

It's likely she had been suffering abuse for many years. It is rarely an isolated incident. I share everyone's anger. There is no excuse, 7 to 9 mins to be strangled to death, that is a lot of thinking time. Maybe each jury should put their hands around a dummie's neck for the full 9 minutes to see how premeditated that was. Us women deserve it every single time don't we.

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