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Poor woman, she must have been so scared.

151 replies

TheLetterZ · 15/02/2021 17:38

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56071168

Another man who accidentally killed his wife as he ‘flipped’. She was trying to leave, he must have stopped her then strangled her.

I do hope that with the manslaughter sentence he will still have punishment but fear with diminished responsibility he won’t.

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2Rebecca · 15/02/2021 18:27

I read that and was appalled. You don't strangle someone because you are unhappy and fed up of Covid restrictions, you strangle someone because you hate someone and want to kill them. It's nearly always men doing the strangling and women being the victims. Strangling someone is completely different to pushing someone in anger and they fall and bang their head and die.

Clymene · 15/02/2021 18:28

My heart goes out to Ruth whose life was ended brutally and in absolute terror.

If you chase someone and then strangle them, you mean to kill them. He's utter scum and the judicial system has made it very clear that her telling him to get over it was considered justification for murder.

Men are afraid that women will laugh at them and women are afraid men will kill us.

Councilworker · 15/02/2021 18:31

My friend just sent me the link to this and asked what the hell was the jury thinking. He told police he planned to kill himself too but "couldn't go through with it". Haven't men used this like a few times when killing their wives.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-55998274

For some reason the fact she had her keys in her hands has particularly upset me. she was desperately trying to get away and fighting for her life and he kept on.

BarbaraofKent · 15/02/2021 18:34

He said he killed his wife because he was worrying about losing his house, despite the mortgage being paid off, and because of money troubles despite having £148,000 in savings. And they fell for those excuses.

Don't forget she also told him to 'get over it'. An offence clearly punishable by death because we all know that women's words are 'literal violence'..... Hmm

magicstar1 · 15/02/2021 18:46

I’ve read about it a few times and can’t help but think it was planned. That he was planting the seeds of his defence early. He had no money worries and they weren’t even a week into lockdown. The “I wouldn’t hurt a fly” comes across like all those guys who keep saying how “nice” they are. The poor woman.

Poolbridge · 15/02/2021 18:47

What a disgraceful failure of justice. That poor, poor, poor woman.

notyourhandmaid · 15/02/2021 18:48

This was so early in lockdown. How many more men have 'snapped' since?

SweetPetrichor · 15/02/2021 18:50

There’s more to a case than what we read in a brief news article.

UppityPuppity · 15/02/2021 18:51

Poor woman. Denied proper justice.

ParkheadParadise · 15/02/2021 18:52

Reading this thread I'm actually surprised at the number of posters who are shocked.

HopeClearwater · 15/02/2021 18:59

@SweetPetrichor

There’s more to a case than what we read in a brief news article

Care to elaborate?

Wheresmyfuckingphone · 15/02/2021 19:07

That poor woman.
No matter what any misogynists reading this thread might think (yes, you), there is no justification for strangling someone.
Even if she told you to get over it.

BarbaraofKent · 15/02/2021 19:11

@SweetPetrichor

There’s more to a case than what we read in a brief news article.
We do know that a woman was strangled to death by the man who was supposed to love her.

She is dead. Forever. Her life was ended by him. She became yet another statistic.

So what else is it that you want to say?

CaraDuneRedux · 15/02/2021 19:17

Horrible end to Ruth's life, travesty of a decision from the jury.

MichelleofzeResistance · 15/02/2021 19:24

Appalling. Angry

Are female people really supposed to live with the law telling them that the nicest of men if they have a few worries may decide that you get to choke your last minutes out with your throat in their hands? And the poor little sausages just can't help it, men have Needs?

And yet NAMALT and don't fuss about mixed sex spaces because men are lovely and on and on and on. And women who have managed to make it successfully out of an escape (or an attempted strangulation, plenty of women have experienced it) have no excuse for being nervous of male people in their refuges.

He decided she wasn't getting away from him. He murdered her. He should be locked up for life. That poor woman, what she must have suffered in the time leading up to her attempted escape. Rampant fucking gynephobia in this society, no wonder we have teenaged girls believing the only escape is to try and identify as something more powerful than a woman.

Poor souls haven't yet realised with their biology it matters not one fuck what they choose to identify as. It won't keep some bastard from choking them if he feels like it.

MaudTheInvincible · 15/02/2021 19:33

Yet another man killed a woman but escapes justice. Abhorrent.

JeansNTees · 15/02/2021 19:38

Compare this case to the current case on Real CSI on the BBC. Lots of similarities, but a very different judgement. Because he used his hands, which he couldn't buy beforehand to prove premeditation.

Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 15/02/2021 19:44

I don't understand how the jury came to that conclusion. So sad.

Tangledtresses · 15/02/2021 19:55

Awful just what???? How do they get away with this shit?
How many refuges do we need to have how many charities supporting abused women? How many children disturbed by these men? How many times do we have to go through this for them to listen???? Makes me sick to the stomach

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 15/02/2021 20:03

What a travesty. I hope Ruth is in a better place and that someone will challenge this judgement. Fucking awful.

DailyCandy · 15/02/2021 20:24

Chased her down the stairs while she tried to escape, then throttled her for 3 minutes.
Shameful travesty that such a cowardly, violent abuser could beat a murder conviction with pitiful excuses.

NoToast · 15/02/2021 20:39

Horrific. What does this tell us. Men's feelings matter. Women's lives don't.

SapatSea · 15/02/2021 21:10

I knew this thread would be about the Ruth Williams case. Horrific.

There must be more to it for the jury to acquit and accept manslaughter with diminished responsibility. Perhaps the daughter's testimony held a lot of sway . (In the Daily mail report)She says her parents spent '90% of their time together', were 'not argumentative people', and she had never heard either of them even 'raise their voice' to each other. She said 'My dad's a gentle giant, he wouldn't hurt a fly."

No,he wouldn't hurt a fly but he'd strangle your mother.I had no idea that "heightened anxiety" could be used for "diminished responsibility"

persistentwoman · 15/02/2021 21:19

Such an awful story. Agree with all the other comments - how frighteningly easy it is to manipulate a jury.

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2021 21:21

I saw this earlier. Absolutely awful, the poor woman.

I felt that the article was written with gritted teeth, too.