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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury’s Eighth- Sealion training for beginners

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SophocIestheFox · 13/02/2021 21:08

Old thread nearly full!

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The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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MoleSmokes · 16/02/2021 15:43

I think I would have gone stark, staring bonkers during the Year of Covid without my dog.

I still miss all the dogs who have been in my life and and feel so lucky to have known them Flowers

RufusTheSniggeringReindeer I’m like that about Xmas pudding. We always used to keep a little one over from Xmas to eat in the summer Smile xx

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/02/2021 16:53

Sorry to bring down the Shrove Tuesday festivities with that sorry anecdote!

Thanks sorry to hear about your dog.

fatblackcatspaw · 16/02/2021 17:09

@GCAcademic

I can't bring myself to make pancakes. Our beautiful dog who died last year adored pancakes. After he was diagnosed with terminal cancer, he had pancakes every weekend until he died. I haven't made them since.

Sorry to bring down the Shrove Tuesday festivities with that sorry anecdote!

oh my goodness I wouldn't either
TeddysTigerEyes · 16/02/2021 18:09

I’d really like to make a Bunberry cake.... not with the cauliflower.
.. I think it would be ok for me to start with flour and good thoughts... not the ones the could hurt a person...good flour thoughts. What next?

TeddysTigerEyes · 16/02/2021 18:22

I just wanted to say this... there are women and they are terrified, they are the women on murder dramas and documentaries, the murder dramas that we all watch. I work with women that are destroyed, women that can’t even remember hope if they ever knew it. Women who are bought and sold. Women who are dead before they ever opened their eyes. I live and breathe these women. The lost and forgotten. There isn’t any equality for them. I cannot shout any louder but no one listens. These women need us now. They need our strength because they haven’t any. I know these women. I come from a “good” family. I’m alright Jack. I know them because of my body, I know who they are and they know me. Keep shouting. Please.

TeddysTigerEyes · 16/02/2021 18:23

So if you are monitoring go fuck yourself.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/02/2021 18:45

@TeddysTigerEyes

So if you are monitoring go fuck yourself.
Isn't that an ambition?
TeddysTigerEyes · 16/02/2021 18:51

For me I will just need a Romano cauliflower... with all its points... right back at you gorgeous. X

PopperUppleton · 16/02/2021 19:03

Twat. Wall of text is so boring

TeddysTigerEyes · 16/02/2021 19:16

Please private message me. I’m so sorry I’ve upset people. I can give you my credentials.

PopperUppleton · 16/02/2021 19:17

Not talking about you Teddy Grin

Exasperated with another thread. Sorry if I've confused things, certainly didn't mean to upset you!

PotholeParadies · 16/02/2021 19:17

Teddy, I don't think Popper meant you.

I think I know who she did mean, on another thread and it's not you!

TeddysTigerEyes · 16/02/2021 19:20

I get it now... me being a massive tit and all. I’ve not checked FWR because it’s just making me want to kick things.

picklemewalnuts · 16/02/2021 19:29

That's ok teddy- we all want to kick things right now, I reckon. But don't worry, some people men are just illustrating the ridiculous of their own position. Nothing for us to worry about- in fact it's helpful. No need to argue our case when entitlement and the sheer bloody obviousness of it all does it for us.

PotholeParadies · 16/02/2021 19:30

You're not a massive tit!

You're just a decent human being who cares about upsetting other people, and so you wanted to check you hadn't.

Delphinium20 · 16/02/2021 20:04

God...I was so overthinking why I got a deletion I had to write a long thingy about why I'm a nice person and should be allowed to be here. Gah!!!!!

I'm just here to remind myself that it's better to just go bake a cake with leftover jam.

PotholeParadies · 16/02/2021 20:07

I really miss the gym. I could do with a bit of angry exercising right now.

PopperUppleton · 16/02/2021 20:17

@PotholeParadies

I really miss the gym. I could do with a bit of angry exercising right now.
Fortunately my sofa cushions need plumping - hee yaaa! Ooo that was a good thump. Feel better now
OwBist · 16/02/2021 20:46

Umm, has anyone seen a rather extraordinary post, by (I'm assuming), a new poster? I'm somewhat lost for words! Pancakes, pancakes, pancakes......

CaraDuneRedux · 16/02/2021 20:50

Have hit the report button already.

They must really think we're stupid. Either that or its Brian from Hull with a new link he wants to talk about.

PotholeParadies · 16/02/2021 20:53

Now there is a question. Do trans forums get targeted by Brians?

CoffeeTeaChocolate · 16/02/2021 22:35

Sometimes I wonder about the motivation of some of the more...male socialised posters.

Are they here because they think that if they repeat the same arguments enough times there is a chance that women here will believe them?

Or do they take a perverse pleasure in pushing women’s boundaries, especially when those women are tied in verbal knots by the posting guidelines?

Or...do they genuinely hope that they will be viewed as “one of the girls” here? Another measure of validation?

Beamur · 16/02/2021 22:46

Goaders gonna goad.
Don't take it personally, some people just love to wind other people up.

notyourhandmaid · 16/02/2021 23:05

Some of it is a very long game if it's just about goading people, though.

What does strike me is that you can see male socialisation coming through in the presumption that every space is somewhere they're entitled to be, and the inability to understand that a space being public doesn't mean it's for everyone. Female socialisation encourages being attuned to these things - partly for safety reasons, and partly out of consideration for others.

Beamur · 16/02/2021 23:16

I guess the long game is proving quite fruitful in many areas. But the needling and monitoring of posts - this is a public forum after all and this is not unusual behaviour? You can choose not to engage.