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Bunbury’s Eighth- Sealion training for beginners

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SophocIestheFox · 13/02/2021 21:08

Old thread nearly full!

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The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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picklemewalnuts · 15/02/2021 20:34

I had hot weetabix amd fruit for tea. No courgette in sight.

PotholeParadies · 15/02/2021 20:41

Ohhhhhhhh.

A few nights ago I was complaining on here that a reasonably long post of mine that I had spent ages composing had been deleted. I couldn't see why. It wasn't personal, and it was just why I found something philosophically problematic.

I didn't mention the cult word IIRC, but I did mention religion. That must have been enough.

persistentwoman · 15/02/2021 21:25

Bleurgh.

MaudTheInvincible · 15/02/2021 21:34

Handmaidens

Betraying their own sex and

Campaigning against their own interests

The women workers of the patriarchy

All the while claiming to be feminists

Make me sick

TeddysTigerEyes · 15/02/2021 22:11

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

StillAWoman2 · 15/02/2021 22:28

Annoyed with myself, responded on another thread when i should have not given them any attention Blush

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/02/2021 22:32

Especially when you remember that for certain posters, the aim of the game is narcissistic supply.

We need to always keep this at the front of our minds.

TeddysTigerEyes · 15/02/2021 22:35

I’ve had a name change and been off here for a few months because I really couldn’t not engage. Keep on Bunburying and answering the real posters who want to talk and need your support.... if not then I have a Romano cauliflower the size of a small dog you can recipe up for me.

CaraDuneRedux · 15/02/2021 22:36

Reminder - if you know from numerous past instances that a certain poster brings nothing to a discussion, ever, and only frequents threads in order to goad, derail, straw man and wilfully misrepresent other posters' positions you can simply scroll past their verbal diarrhea without even bothering to read it.

I find this leaves me with a much more sanguine and equitable outlook on life.

Plus - bonus: since they're only here for the narc supply, cutting that off annoys the hell out of them.

Winesalot · 15/02/2021 22:47

Romano cauliflower- roasted rubbed in paprika, cumin, turmeric, and garlic powder and oil, dipped in Parmesan. ???? Would that work??

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2021 23:09

Cara, yes indeed. Notice how the less engagement there is the more anger starts to show.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/02/2021 23:12

Definitely Arabella.

FannyCann · 15/02/2021 23:47

Can someone clarify something for me please:

What is the difference between a straw man and a red herring.

Or are they the same?

Thelnebriati · 15/02/2021 23:52

Afaik;
A straw man is a fake argument that makes it sound like you answered the original point but didnt..
A red herring is a distraction, an attempt to take the thread off on a tangent.

DeaconBoo · 15/02/2021 23:57

Useful for students of Bunbury?!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

boatyardblues · 16/02/2021 00:09

That’s a great wikipedia page, but who knew there were so many different types of fallacies?

DeaconBoo · 16/02/2021 00:14

People who've been arguing online for a really long time Grin

picklemewalnuts · 16/02/2021 07:41

Blush I can never open my mouth again! That list!

boatyardblues · 16/02/2021 07:49

If anyone wants a bit of light relief, this article will make you grind your teeth but the comments BTL are gold: www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-brits-who-fled-to-paradise-for-lockdown-809njc59j

ArabellaScott · 16/02/2021 08:41

Ah, phallusies. Excellent, ta.

SophocIestheFox · 16/02/2021 10:01

I am struggling this morning, I cannot summon the energy to give one tiny little fuck about being polite and kind when my rights are being shit all over.

PFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTT

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Winesalot · 16/02/2021 10:02

Ahh! Careful now. Deletions aplenty coming through on a feisty thread where wims are explaining why representation should be actually representational.

TeddysTigerEyes · 16/02/2021 10:21

Oh dear. Apologies. Back to my Cauliflowers then.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 16/02/2021 10:37

Seems this thread is also being monitored by the forces of darkness. Or the light, if your personal preference is for darkness as mine is.

MoleSmokes · 16/02/2021 10:44

Monitored, you say?

Bunbury’s Eighth- Sealion training for beginners