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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Have you ever ... ? (Things women have to deal with, that men don't)

421 replies

EssenceOfDittany · 08/02/2021 23:51

I had a conversation with a naive "be kind" sort of person (male) the other day at work, who casually came out with something about sex being basically irrelevant next to gender identity. I reminded him that the sole reason for women's oppression throughout history is biology, i.e. sex. Thankfully he revised his position pretty quickly and looked like he felt a bit silly for having said it in the first place. (I think he is also blissfully unaware of how controversial such a "belief" is these days, and was only parroting the thing about gender because he'd heard lots of other people say it.)

This got me thinking, I'd like to compile a list of some of the crappy things girls/women have to deal with in their everyday lives that men never/rarely do, so that when someone more set in their opinions says "sex is irrelevant", I can say "really? So, have you ever ... ?"

A few to start us off:

… spent the entire day with a jumper tied around your waste to hide the blood stain on your trousers when your period caught you off-guard?

… left a social gathering earlier than you wanted because you realised you didn’t have enough sanpro to get you through the evening?

… made an excuse to not go swimming when you’d like to, because you realise you haven’t done the requisite bikini/leg/armpit maintenance?

… spent hours painfully removing your pubic hair when you didn’t want to, because an intimate male partner told you it was disgusting and you didn't have the confidence to tell him to sod off?

… endlessly plucked/waxed/obsessed over your upper lip hair because it would be a disaster if someone realised that was your natural state?

… taken the route three times as long, just to avoid going down a short alley alone in the dark?

… clutched your keys between your fingers with the “blade” sticking outwards to make you feel like you might stand a chance if attacked by a man, since you know you’ll have no chance based on strength alone?

… asked a family member to track your location when you’re out alone, and told them exactly where they should expect you to be every step of the journey, so they can raise the alarm if something happens to you?

… felt relieved when your company moved to WFH, because you could finally stop putting on a brave face at your desk while in agony on your period?

… worried about judgement from your colleagues when you say you're “feeling ill” a day or two every month?

... had a constant sick feeling in your stomach when out alone in your local area after dark, because you're afraid of being assaulted/mugged?

Please help me flesh out the list further! I’ve only scratched the surface, and I know there are so many more examples, relating to motherhood, career progression, DV, women’s health, general safety, all sorts. I want to rattle off this list next time someone dares suggest that “sex is irrelevant”.

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Graffitiqueen · 08/02/2021 23:57

Hidden in the ladies loo to avoid a creepy bloke.

Graffitiqueen · 08/02/2021 23:59

The panic when your period is late.

Graffitiqueen · 08/02/2021 23:59

Fainting after coil insertion.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 09/02/2021 00:00

Mine seem rather trivial in a way...

  • take a spare pair of shoes for the walk home from an event, as the shoes you are expected to wear with a formal dress aren't weatherproof.
  • join a massive queue for the toilets at concerts, service stations, shopping centres...
  • be given the nickname Tits because women on Engineering courses were considered a novelty
  • be seen as a 'wife' at professional events
Givemeabreakpls · 09/02/2021 00:02

In relation to online dating, something someone said on a thread a little while ago really resonated with me. Men go on the first date worried they may get laughed at, women go worried they may get raped.

OneEpisode · 09/02/2021 00:03

I’m a mother. I’m asked how I’m getting on with homeschooling. My male colleagues are assumed not to be involved and not asked.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 09/02/2021 00:04

Knowing that all of your friends and female family members have also felt sexually threatened by a man at some point - and that your daughter will too.

It's grim.

Wilsonwilson · 09/02/2021 00:07

I can say I have done none of these, but I get your point.

Been treated awfully even by women because I'm not attractive

hazandduck · 09/02/2021 00:11

Nearly died of mastitis 😩

Asked who has the kids when I go on a night out. (Pre covid) DH never gets asked! Or asked if DH is ‘babysitting.’ When I’m with the kids it’s not babysitting is it? 🤬

JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority · 09/02/2021 00:13

Fainting in public/school/the bus/the street/the dinner table every month as a teenager because of the tremendous blood loss you experience.

Being told you’re over reacting for yelling “get the fuck away from me” at a man who tried to put his hands in your underwear in a club.

Akire · 09/02/2021 00:14

Getting called names whistled at in school uniform or just out and about but being a child.

Being admitted to hospital in an emergency and no sanpro on the ward as “we don’t supply that sort of thing”. But happily gave out men shaving foam and razers.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 09/02/2021 00:15

Marital status being obvious. Of course, there are women who don't conform, but men just have one title.

Mrsmummy90 · 09/02/2021 00:17
  • when working in bars, getting sexually harassed/assaulted every single shift as once some men have had a drink or two, they assume they have a right to grope female staff.
Wilsonwilson · 09/02/2021 00:19

Being disbelieved and discounted in medical scenarios leading to worse outcomes

Flamingosarentreal · 09/02/2021 00:20

having to take the toddlers to my smear exam as dh was working and there were no weekend appointments or other sitters

Akire · 09/02/2021 00:21

I know family members that get the dads to take kids to GP appointments because they have been several times with sick baby or child and been fobbed off as not quite bad enough for anti biotic let’s see how we go. When child’s been screaming for a week. Dad isn’t fobbed off and seen as very important issue.

NomNomNominativeDeterminism · 09/02/2021 00:22

Had a smear test

NiceGerbil · 09/02/2021 00:22

Had get your tits out shouted at me
Two men trying to get me to 'get in the car' and following me in the car down the road when I was 16
Been wanked at on the tube
Followed more than once
Boys on bus home from school whispering We're going to rape you, you can't get away we'll follow you and find out where you live

Etc etc etc

EssenceOfDittany · 09/02/2021 00:23

Thanks all, these are great (well actually, they're awful, but you know what I mean). Keep 'em coming!

@Akire Woah, they didn't supply sanpro at a sodding HOSPITAL? That's insane. Were they happy for you to just lie there and bleed all over the place?

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BlowDryRat · 09/02/2021 00:23
  • felt guilty or guilt-tripped for not joining the PTA?
  • ruled out a whole swathe of holiday destinations because you don't fancy being cat called, groped and harassed every time you step out of your hotel room?
  • hidden in your hotel room on a work trip down day instead of sightseeing because you couldn't take the sexual harassment from complete strangers any more?
  • deliberately made eye contact with someone as you passed them on a pavement so that they knew you had seen their face and would remember what they looked like if they attacked you?
  • been denied pain relief when suffering the worst agony of your life because the medical staff reckoned you could cope for another 10 hours?
Floobie · 09/02/2021 00:24

Left a party and then discovered you have very visible blood on the back of your dress

Diamondella · 09/02/2021 00:25

Had to drive to a car park in your lunch break just to have a nap because in the early stages of pregnancy, when you are growing a baby, the exhaustion and tiredness is overwhelming and the concern about being judged in terms of your ability to do your job makes you not want to admit to it.

Floobie · 09/02/2021 00:26

Stayed up with worry most of the night at MIL's, because you had a heavy period and you were terrified to mess the sheets

Akire · 09/02/2021 00:29

After several hours of huffing they did eventual find a massive incontinence nappy. Then in pain, in a wheelchair and with a drip stand I had get myself around to the hospital cash point and shop and sort myself out the next morning. That sums up a lot of female medical care really.

Floobie · 09/02/2021 00:30

Breasts leaking milk all over my top in a customer facing role at work (just returned from mat leave)