Just have to go back to the blatant dishonesty of this “conundrum”:
So who would you rather share a refuge with? A chaotic substance misusing women whose been kicked out of other provision for assaulting residents, or a quiet trans women just trying to get on with her life and heal?
It’s not actually a conundrum: I’d rather share a refuge with the woman, because my boundary is that I wouldn’t want to share with a male, full stop - but FFS, it’s so telling what jj left out.
Let’s look at the scenarios he chose not to propose:
Who would you rather share a refuge with? A chaotic substance misusing woman who’s been kicked out of other provision for assaulting other residents, or a chaotic substance misusing biologically male trans person [with all that maleness entails in terms of physical strength and very probably male genitalia] who’s been kicked out of other provision for assaulting other residents?
Or
Who would you rather share a refuge with? A quiet woman just trying to get on with her life and heal, or a quiet biologically male trans person [proviso re maleness as above] just trying to get on with [...] life and heal?
Or
Who would you rather share a refuge with? A quiet woman just trying to get on with her life and heal, or a chaotic substance misusing biologically male trans person [proviso re maleness as above] who’s been kicked out of other provision for assaulting other residents?
Because all those scenarios are just as possible as the one that he mooted, in the world he advocates for.
(Let’s not forget that this hypothetical biologically male trans person may well be sexually attracted to women and (unlike lesbians and bi women) has a male body. May well not even try to “pass”; may get a buzz out of flaunting [...] maleness in the most crude way. Or may just try and take over socially, change the dynamic of the group so it’s somehow all about them. This stuff is already happening.)
Anyway. I choose to share with the woman, every single time.
There’s one thing that shines out clear and true out of everything jj writes, and that’s his complete lack of empathy for women. Lack of understanding, lack of interest in even trying to understand our perspective, lack of compassion, lack of insight into what it actually is to be born and live as a female in a patriarchal, misogynist world, lack of respect, lack of liking.
Over and over again he is determined he is to make sure that the voice of MALE PEOPLE is not only heard but centred, right here, on a feminist board. That the concerns of MALE PEOPLE are centred by women, women who still have such a long way to go in our own fight.
Yes, we hear you, jj. We KNOW we don’t matter to you. We KNOW we’re just service humans to you. You are familiar to us. We have all had plenty of experience of other men who have treated us exactly like you do. That’s how men [as a class] have been treating women for millennia, and some - too many - men still do. Which is why feminism was needed and came about in the first place.
The glorious irony (or whatever it is) of you thinking that you’re here as the voice of the oppressed, standing up in the name of truth and justice and in defence of the vulnerable.
Nah, you’re just another man oppressing women. Same old, same old.