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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I am being asked to go into a meeting and introduce my pronouns to everyone in an hour and a half!

312 replies

WhatTheFuckHappenedHere · 29/10/2020 11:35

I am part of a work group tasked with running a big event that will take almost a year to plan. The first meeting is in an hour and a half over Zoom. The organiser, who I've never met, and goes by they/them pronouns according to the email signature, sent round an email reminder this morning with the meeting link, and including an agenda. The first thing on it is to introduce ourselves, our work area, an our gender pronouns. I don't really want to do this, but I need to work with this person and the group as a whole for the best part of a year! I'm feeling like I'll just have to go along with it lest I get accused of enacting literal and actual violence. Any advice?

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Alternista · 29/10/2020 13:15

Really want to know how it went... and saving some of these for future references.

MindTheMinotaur · 29/10/2020 13:16

Delirium we need to go to meetings together.

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/10/2020 13:18

Placemarking to see what you said... some brilliant suggestions!

ANoTail · 29/10/2020 13:18

[quote Coffeecak3]@CaptainCorellisPangolin at the upcoming meeting you really should reference this.
Hello, I'm Pangolin or some of you may know me by xxx's description as that goddam fucking duke![/quote]
It is tempting. Oh so very tempting.
We have a very elderly vicar sitting in on it (he's contributing to something we're publishing). Really, that should deter me but it only makes me want to do it more.

Shizzlestix · 29/10/2020 13:20

Also placematking. I’m intrigued to see if the OP”s colleague has the balls (e cause my sexism/genderism!!) to reject being asked. World’ has gone mad. Can’t people (is it offensive to say people??) just use names?

ScrapThatThen · 29/10/2020 13:20

I prefer not to say, or would you mind if I don't, seems the most neutral response if you are not wanting to nail your gender critical stance to the mast.

StealthPolarBear · 29/10/2020 13:21

Lurking to find out what happened. I suspect this will come soon in my work place.

nosswith · 29/10/2020 13:23

'I'd prefer you just refer to me by my name, which is...'.

RoysFrankenstein · 29/10/2020 13:25

On here once someone posted that if asked their pronouns they'd say 'it/it's' and it really made me laugh, I chuckle every time I think about it. I'd love to do it but I doubt I could keep a straight face.

popcornlover · 29/10/2020 13:26

Hope it went ok OP.

Can you imagine if someone asked you ten years ago, hell even three years ago, “what are your pronouns?” - you’d be stumped as to what the hell the meant. I would be tempted to look at them as if they’d just asked a question from outer space actually.

trevorandsimon · 29/10/2020 13:26

I wanna know what happened!

PegasusReturns · 29/10/2020 13:28

Shamelessly place marking.

OldQueen1969 · 29/10/2020 13:31

What would happen in these situations if you just looked blank and said "the usual ones" ? (Does this make me evil?)

justasking111 · 29/10/2020 13:31

Wear a low cut top, lots of red lipstick, and declare HE/HIM. What a nonsense it is so treat it as such.

NRatched · 29/10/2020 13:31

This is unfair on trans people who are not 'out' IMO. Its unfair on women too really, and men..but the one that will be listened to above all else is that transpeople should not be MADE to state their pronouns as they are a very personal thing and.

FairFridaythe13th · 29/10/2020 13:33

It does imply that people need to state it - so it’s not automatically obvious then?

NRatched · 29/10/2020 13:33

No idea abut the extra and there Hmm

When my dads workmates were told to do this (albeit on emails, rather than in person) they started identifying as god and such, and had emails shooting arund the office ending in 'banana/bananself' and stuff. I doubt that would go down too well in person though, or in a group less closely knitted than they were!

mumsiedarlingrevolta · 29/10/2020 13:35

Oooh @WhatTheFuckHappenedHere please come back...

Summerfreeze · 29/10/2020 13:37

Let us know how you get on! I’d ignore this too.

steppemum · 29/10/2020 13:42

It is tempting. Oh so very tempting.
We have a very elderly vicar sitting in on it (he's contributing to something we're publishing). Really, that should deter me but it only makes me want to do it more.

I veyr much doubt if he would be shocked!

rashalert · 29/10/2020 13:44

Say you're having intersectional feminist/gender counselling to help you decide on your pro-noun but it is long and traumatic and, at the moment, being forced to identify could lead to a trauma.

In fact, the whole thing is insensitive and triggering and you will need a week of work to deal with the feelings it has stirred up.

StealthPolarBear · 29/10/2020 13:48

When I put mine on a thread recently I was deleted and given a warning. Tbh I was a bit pissed off they assumed I wasn't serious. How can one tell the difference?

HeyGirlHeyBoy · 29/10/2020 13:48

I'd probably go with 'I'm a woman, thanks', smile sweetly and mute, looking expectantly for next person.

But I'd like to ponder why it's relevant and if pushed I might say 'If I say he do I get a pay rise?' LOL. Just bantz.

TabbyStar · 29/10/2020 13:49

Great post Marial, I feel pretty much the same.

LatinforTelly · 29/10/2020 13:56

Another one lurking to find out what happened - hope it was uneventful for you, OP. Some great serious and not-so-serious options here and @CaptainCorellisPangolin, that made me laugh!

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