We are now non trans women.....

[InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud]

According the lovely Mr T

Surely men are non-non-transwomen?

We think like women
We feel like women
We act like women
We dress like women

Our biology is "wrong", but we had no say in that. So why exclude us?

Trans women are trans women. Why is that so difficult?

The problem here, and why you're getting hit with the thought terminating cliche slogan, is the use of the word woman to describe males. They aren't. Women are females.

We think like women
We feel like women
We act like women
We dress like women

In what sense? How do women think? How do women feel? How do women act? How do women dress?

We think like women

I know I "think like a woman" because I think and I am a woman.

Please explain how a male person can "think like a woman" in such a way that differs from "thinking like a man".

I don't think like a woman. I just am one.
I don't feel like a woman. I just am one.
I sometimes don't dress like a woman but I still am one.
I sometimes don't act like a woman. I am just a woman.

What is it to do/be/feel all of these things? I certainly don't know, so how on earth could you?

Oh dear, my brain is randomly switching lyrics to encompass this new enlightened phrase; like a twisted playlist on shuffle.

Classic so far include;

"non transman I feel like a non transwoman"

"It's raining non transmen"

"Son of a preacher non transman"

Think I will stick to the originals tbh, these suck, as does this whole situation.

Thank you to all the women who continue to fight for our sex based rights.

Reminded of listening to someone saying (of an anonymous author), "He must be a man. He writes like a man," and thinking, "Which man? If it's John Norman, that's a quite different thing from John Milton, isn't it?"

(The anonymous author was in fact a woman.)

At least he didn't say "cis".

We think like women
We feel like women
We act like women
We dress like women

I am a woman and I couldn't tell you what being a woman feels like. It doesn't have a feeling.

Same as acting like a woman. I don't act any differently to my brothers. What does acting like a woman entail?

Dressing is just stereotypes. Plenty of women don't wear stereotypical female clothes, or have long swishy hair, or wear makeup or heels, but it doesn't make them men.

i think like a giraffe
i feel like a giraffe
i act like a giraffe
i dress like a giraffe (in private)

Doesn't make me a giraffe

Milady, with all due respect,
You don’t know what all women think
You don’t know how all women feel
You don’t act like all women act
You don’t dress like all women.
Women aren’t one homogenous lump, we come in many many different styles.
As Jenni Murray put it so beautifully;
'there are many, many stereotypes associated with our gender. But our SEX we share.'
Women across the world are treated in the way that they are because of our SEXED bodies, not because of thoughts, feelings and clothes.
You have as much right to think, feel and dress in anyway you want (within reason) as the next person and should be free to live your life in comfort and happiness but trans women are not the same as women. And that’s ok.

@MiladyRenata

We think like women We feel like women We act like women We dress like women

Our biology is "wrong", but we had no say in that. So why exclude us?

This is utter nonsense. The only thing the 3.5-4 billion women in the world have in common is our biology. We all dress, act, feel and think differently, because we are all individuals. Look at this tiny sample of the world's women and tell me I'm wrong.

What loungelizard just said

People always say that I’m very like a cat - quite calming and serene apparently. I’m lazy and sleepy like a cat.

No one is excluding you. It's not something we have power over. You were born male; that's the way it is and there just isn't anything anyone can do about it.

Besides, you do not think like me. You do not feel like me. You sure as hell don't act or dress like me. Yet I am a woman, an adult human female.

@MiladyRenata

We think like women We feel like women We act like women We dress like women

Our biology is "wrong", but we had no say in that. So why exclude us?

What a load of bollocks....what does feeling, thinking, acting and dressing like a woman mean?

@MiladyRenata

We think like women We feel like women We act like women We dress like women

Our biology is "wrong", but we had no say in that. So why exclude us?

Why base the definition of gender on those things (which I don't think exist in some universal sense)? Why not base it on biological sex and let everyone of either sex be full human beings and think and feel and act and dress as they wish as long as others are not hurt?

Sexism and sex-based discrimination is based on biological sex. Not to have a name for the group which is likely to be the victim of sex-based oppression has extremely high harmful consequences for feminism.

What is it to do/be/feel all of these things?

I did see a transwoman say, very seriously, that it was the overwhelming urge to clean all the time But they weren't sexist, you understand. We all know that every woman is just itching all day to get home from their delicate jobs and straight into their pink marigolds.

@yourhairiswinterfire

What is it to do/be/feel all of these things?

I did see a transwoman say, very seriously, that it was the overwhelming urge to clean all the time But they weren't sexist, you understand. We all know that every woman is just itching all day to get home from their delicate jobs and straight into their pink marigolds.

An interview with Deirdre McCloskey stated that her sister finally accepted McCloskey's woman-status when Deirdre noticed that a rug needed hoovering.

That stuck to my mind because it is an example of how what women might be assumed to think about is so culturally driven and based on gender roles and how it was also based on the old argument that men just don't see dirt or dust.

So if you see dirt or dust you must be a woman.