Brighton TRAs bullying female small business owner

[SapphosRock]

Urgh. This is happening in my home town and it’s shit.

Happy Maki is a small, vegan cafe and takeaway. It’s a very ethical business. All about sustainability and green energy. They plant a tree and feed a child for each wrap made. It’s a gift economy and the food is free with a suggested donation. All very hippy. You get the idea.

A FTM trans person approached the female owner of Happy Maki and asked for support in fundraising for their top surgery. I believe they wanted a poster in the window asking for money. The owner refused. When pressed the owner said it was against her religious beliefs - she is a follower of the Divine Truth which admittedly sounds a bit ‘out there’ but not entirely unexpected given the nature of her business.

Anyway the TRAs have really gone to town and are posting in every Brighton based Facebook group, Instagram and Twitter accusing the owner of Transphobia and calling for her to apologise:

twitter.com/makiunhappy/status/1314261939833446400?s=21

They seem to be getting a lot of support and gaining a lot of traction too with many saying they are now going to boycott the business.

I’m upset about this for a lot of reasons. Obviously the female owner being bullied and harassed in this way and them encouraging people to email her. The lovely takeaway losing business. It’s also pretty tone deaf to attack the hospitality sector in the midst of a global pandemic for not supporting one individual’s elective, life changing surgery.

Anyway, the reason I’m posting here is in solidarity with the owner Anna. And if any of you lovely lot are nearby then consider getting a Happy Maki takeaway. The food is delicious and I’m sure they could do with some support right now.

www.happymaki.co.uk

Shall I tell you a TRA secret? Quite often we'll be talking to someone ambivalent over GC things who will say but it's just some women with reasonable concerns, it's not about transphobia. That's when we send them a link to this forum. And they come back and go oh fuck, I see what you mean, that's fucking batshit. So yes, the more lurkers and sunlight the better.

Yes. We all know how much self awareness the average TRA has. So yes I'm very happy for lurkers and sunlight, so I guess that makes two of us. In fact TRAs are famously so happy with sunlight that they coined a hashtag, #nodebate. You might have heard of it?

[quote EyesOpening]@jj1968 you quoted my comment then seemed to have forgotten to address it[/quote]
Apologies I quoted you by mistake.

Comedy gold that is.

It's classic.

This thread raises an idea.

The need for threads on Law based resources to begin. They'll add to the "Receipt" threads.

With that in mind, I wish female businesses owners the best, and onwards to new MN news/fact/Law_Code sharing

I don't know about you, but for me certainly, the highlight was Harrop saying, on national television, that women have appropriated the word woman.

😂 it's unbelievable isn't it

Thanks for posting the video of that little bellend being made to look like the ridiculous little bellend that he is! 😂

@Datun

Shall I tell you a TRA secret? Quite often we'll be talking to someone ambivalent over GC things who will say but it's just some women with reasonable concerns, it's not about transphobia. That's when we send them a link to this forum. And they come back and go oh fuck, I see what you mean, that's fucking batshit. So yes, the more lurkers and sunlight the better.

🤣🤣🤣

Of course. It's so clear, now. Mumsnet must be shut down, their advertisers targeted by transactivists because it's working for them.

😂😂😂 The lies they tell.

There's a reason why RADICALISED ON MUMSNET is a thing.

THAT video is his actual fame legacy....

There's a reason Bergdorf called it a "radicalisation portal". But yeah, TRAs just love all the sunlight they can get. It plays really well for them with people unfamiliar with gender identity ideology and politics.

DARVO, innit?

And ooh, look, we're on the penultimate page.

This board on Mumsnet opened my eyes to what is happening, I was ‘radicalised’ into action into writing to Liz Truss in the summer, and I have since directed my family and friends to this board who have also been enlightened.
I say the more the TRAs direct people here the merrier.
So please do carry on...

@Cailleach1

In my opinion, he just came across as a bit unhinged and creepy. Personally, I think the type of energy he gave off would make me wait for the next lift and exhale when the doors closed on the one he was in and he was taken away somewhere else.

I think also, for the unsuspecting viewer, you could see straight on the incredible reaction and contempt towards the word woman. To an ordinary viewer, such as myself, the notions and reactions come across as bat shit. You just thought "Enough now. Back in your box". Your 15 minutes feels way too long.

Of course, they were my personal reactions.

I always remember what the poster who met him in real life had to say about his 'freaking dark vibe'.

And HappyMaki can spark a little flame of the awareness to support FLB under attack.

Female
Lead
Businesses.

On all the 'Socials', Socially and more - tantalisingly through Member Only business connections/events. Women are going nowhere. Here to stay.

Just realized what TRA stands for after all this time! Totally Ridiculous Arseholes. Phew.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

There's a reason Bergdorf called it a "radicalisation portal". But yeah, TRAs just love all the sunlight they can get. It plays really well for them with people unfamiliar with gender identity ideology and politics.

I know.

All that shutting down of meetings, banging on windows, sending bomb threats, the dogs, the balaclavas, the baseball bats, the frightening the life out of Millwall and the sheriff at the House of Commons, the NooooooDebate - none of it was meant to actually shut women up. No siree. It's all to get more, um, sunlight. Because what sunlight does is give TRAs, er, 'real results'.

Shame about all the Dentons leaked documents about getting things done under the radar, and out of the papers, innit?

@EyesOpening

jj1968 you also said “ And perhaps if she'd been less eager to share her beliefs with employees and customers then none of this would have happened.” No-one has claimed Henry was a customer and there doesn’t seem to be any specific evidence that she was eager to share her beliefs with her staff either, more that Henry shared her beliefs with them and then they ambushed her to talk about them and keep hounding her about them too

jj1968 are you going to address it then?

jj1968 are you going to address it then?

Well you're speculating now. I'm not sure it's that relevent whether Harry was a customer, he was local, known to the staff and approached her as a local business owner so he was at least a potential customer. As to the rest who knows in exactly what context she made the biphobic comments, all we know for sure was that along with the other issues it was enough for half the staff team to walk out.

As to the rest who knows in exactly what context she made the biphobic comments,

"As to the rest who knows in exactly what context she made the comments about a concept I don't agree with, don't believe in, don't subscribe to, and don't ever advocate for, but nonetheless will certainly use to make my fallacious points.

..who knows in exactly what context she made the biphobic comments..

You still haven't bothered to read her blog post have you? And still lying about the numbers.

7 is 10! Don't embarrass yourself further.

@doublehalo

..who knows in exactly what context she made the biphobic comments..

You still haven't bothered to read her blog post have you? And still lying about the numbers.

7 is 10! Don't embarrass yourself further.

Of course I've read her blog. And I've treated it as one's person version of events, no more valid than anyone other version without more information about what went on. It's called being objective.

Of course I've read her blog. And I've treated it as one's person version of events, no more valid than anyone other version without more information about what went on. It's called being objective.

You're not coming across as objective.

And I've treated it as one's person version of events, no more valid than anyone other version without more information about what went on. It's called being objective

Good point, there's always two versions, without being there who's to know really.
I'm assuming the staff who walked out must have a fairly good idea.

@doublehalo

Of course I've read her blog. And I've treated it as one's person version of events, no more valid than anyone other version without more information about what went on. It's called being objective.

You're not coming across as objective.

No

Thank you, Datun. I hadn't actually seen the 2 hour film that jj1968 mentioned.
I have, now! Good, isn't it?

I wonder if all those people that the TRAs are apparently sending to Mumsnet for "sunlight" will see it, too?

Of course I've read her blog. And I've treated it as one's person version of events, no more valid than anyone other version without more information about what went on. It's called being objective.

If David Brent posted on Mumsnet....