Do “trans kids” exist?

[Siameasy]

Following on from yesterday discussion:

With it becoming increasingly clear that we cannot define “trans”, genuine sufferers of Gender Dysphoria aside, how can there be such a thing as a trans kid?

Reading the “new rules” from Mermaids how would I know if my kid is trans?

Can babies be trans?

Generally thought to be a boy... 1901

Awwww - look at this wee fella

Oh my, westminster school... apparently the boys voted for the colour after winning a rowing match against another school (who also, presumably wanted the colour pink).

@SerenityNowwwww

Awwww - look at this wee fella

gawgusss. He's a cutie :¬))

yes I think all boys and girls wore dresses when they were little. Their shoes always looked so uncomfortable poor things.

I still remember one of my friends who was expecting a baby at the beginning of the century some time and spent a while looking for black babygros out of sheer cussedness; she would have settled for dark purple or any of the dark jewel colours, but nothing that wasn't pastel seemed to be available. (She wasn't a Goth.)

My children of both sexes in the 1980s often had baby clothes in dark colours, and looked great in them; nobody commented that dark blue was only for boys or dark red only for girls, it seemed to be only pink and pale blue that were gendered at that point. It's got worse since. The colours were mostly "what I could get in the second-hand baby-clothes shops", to be fair, so they sometimes got pastels as well.

There is nothing wrong with the colour pink and /or liking it, however some parents will heavily push their boy towards pink whilst telling everyone that gender is a social construct and girls should avoid pink.

Mine all preferred green until gender cut in when the elder daughter was about ten and decided pink was the only great colour for about four years.

A quick flip through the photo album shows that when they're not in uniform of one sort or another they now tend to go for either bright colour or dark colour; not a pastel in the whole album.

@TheGreatWave

There is nothing wrong with the colour pink and /or liking it, however some parents will heavily push their boy towards pink whilst telling everyone that gender is a social construct and girls should avoid pink.

Yes it’s funny that ds likes pink and my bil tried very hard to distract his dd away from pink and traditional ‘girly’ stuff.

I did try to warn him that kids like what they like... now he lives with a ballet mad dd and about a million creepy American girl dolls...

My own grandfather, born to a farming family in 1879, was dressed in skirts until he was about 5. He lost his mother early to typhoid and his only memory of her was of being scolded for getting his petticoats muddy in the farmyard.

In Victorian photographs it's not safe to assume the toddler in a dress is a girl. She might be. He might not be.

So much of appearance is cultural!

Didn't male children in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries get "breeched", put into short trousers instead of skirts, when they were about six or seven, and at the same time have their hair cut for the first time?

There's an article in Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeching_(boys)

I came across this video recently of Blaire White interviewing a young person called Emily who transitioned at a very young age. I found it quite interesting. Emily seems much happier presenting as a girl than a boy.

I do wonder about the long-term effects on Emily's health over time.

Emily seems much happier presenting as a girl than a boy
But how can we tell if they never got the chance to be a boy post-puberty? There’s nothing to compare to