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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall

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OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2020 08:20

There is a crowdfunder so I won't share the link but here a part of the text. It's long but brilliant and this isn't the half of it. Off to find my wallet...

The new trans activism: all scrutiny and critical voices labelled ‘transphobic’

In early 2018, when I first heard that plans were underway to make the lives of trans people easier, my reaction was that this was a good thing and I did not give it a second thought. I kept coming across the term ‘TERF’ but ignored it. I thought that bigots were simply being called out.

Then one day I clicked on a link: terfisaslur.com where someone had collated the online abuse that was being directed at women who I realised had entirely valid concerns and questions about the wisdom of replacing sex with gender.
I learnt that the new trans activism wants to smash the distinctions between men and women; replacing sex with notions of gender identity; making sexual difference a matter of self identification; and demands that any and every man that wishes to identify as a woman must be allowed to do so.
I learnt that the new trans activism is focusing, inexplicably, on young children and declaring them ‘trans’; treating puberty as a disease to be blocked with powerful drugs; delivering our young people into the arms of a multi-million pound industry of big pharmaceutical companies and plastic surgeons.
I saw that the same males who would have society regard them as women, were quick to brandish knives, axes, baseball bats and nooses, as they threatened with rape women who questioned the wisdom of replacing sex with gender —TERFs.
I realised that the new trans activism operated a crude but effective system of punishment and reward: agree with every demand of the trans lobby and be safe; object and face vilification, abuse, boycott, character assassination and cancellation.
I was horrified (and terrified).
I wanted to look away, to pretend that I had not seen it; that it did not reveal the worst woman-hating, lesbian hating, misogyny that I have ever come across in my lifetime.
I did not look away and I urge others not to either. Thanks to brave women who have come before me, such as the late, great, Magdalen Berns, whose courage and no nonsense approach to calling out the new trans activism as the men’s rights movement it so clearly is, gave me courage.
I realised that I did not have to accept that any man can claim to be legally a woman, without having to undergo any hormone or surgical intervention, psychological evaluation or risk assessment.
I realised that it was okay and necessary to say that it is reckless and naive to think that men will only identify as women if they are stunning and brave and harmless: that the wicked, abusive, predatory, unwell and downright cantankerous will, by some miracle, refuse to take advantage of free and easy access to women, to their politics, safe spaces, sports, legal protections and identities.
I was shocked to discover that significant numbers of male sex offenders are permitted to identify as women and nothing is being done to stop them. In England and Wales, some 40 per cent or more of trans identified males in the prison population are men with convictions for sex offences, including rape and possession of the most serious indecent images of children. I read a steady stream of news reports from around the world of males who identify as women committing serious sex offences.
It is repugnant to me and wholly unacceptable, and frankly unbelievable, that the new trans activism demands that sex crimes committed by males who identify as women are recorded as having been committed by women; and that these males can demand to be referred to by female pronouns.
I discovered that women incarcerated in prison are left vulnerable to serious sexual assault and mental anguish, as males, including sex offenders, are locked up with them. The new trans activism demands that a man’s desire to identify as a woman is more important than the right of imprisoned women to safety and dignity. These women have no way to escape, no choice, they are locked up. I do not see how this is anything other than state facilitated abuse and mental torture.
Where there should have been discussion, investigation and inquiry, there has been the silencing of concerned and critical voices; not voices from the far right, but from women like me, who are of and from the progressive left.
Mantras have been chanted because the new trans activism is a movement that cannot bear scrutiny: TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN; TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS; TRANS PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE; PROTECT OUR TRANS SIBLINGS, and so on, do nothing to engage with and address the serious concerns that exist about replacing sex with gender.
The new trans activists are joined by politicians, journalists, lawyers, writers, entire organisations, and assorted celebrities, in the chanting of these mantras to shut down debate, while others who are appalled at what they see happening are too afraid to speak out. It is cult like behaviour, it is Orwellian, and it has disgraced and shamed a generation.
Labelling all critical voices ‘transphobic’ is a cynical political ploy of the new trans activism. It must be resisted.

Surviving child sexual abuse: understanding that women and girls are oppressed because of their sex and not their gender identity
The man who sexually abused me as a 9 year old little girl; the man who targeted my single-parent mother; the man who told me that I could trust him whilst he slipped drugs into my orange squash to render me helpless as he sexually assaulted me, was tried and convicted of multiple sexual assaults against me in 2015, and sentenced to 10 years imprisonment. He was released from prison last month (May 2020) to serve out the rest of his sentence on licence.

I make this disclosure now because I feel compelled to stand in solidarity with other women with similar experiences of male physical and sexual violence. It is not weaponising trauma to say so, any more than recounting racist abuse is.

We must not allow men or women to bury, minimise and ignore the visceral reality of male violence. We must not allow the new trans activism to force survivors back into the closet; this would be an abuser’s charter.

It should be a cause of great alarm that the new trans activism takes such a regressive and shaming attitude to disclosures of abuse. This culture of denial and belittling has been the bedrock and the hallmark of every abuse scandal. It is a red flag that signals a safeguarding catastrophe in the making.
It is women like me whose lives have been torn apart and seriously blighted by wanton acts of male violence that know that men are often not who they say they are or claim to be.
I know that conflating sex with notions of gender identity will leave women with no legally enforceable boundaries against any man.

I know that if the new trans activism is not brought to heel, women will disappear as a political class.

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PurpleHoodie · 11/02/2021 16:48

What are their case/professional histories Laughing?

PurpleHoodie · 11/02/2021 16:49

Thanks sheRa.

persistentwoman · 11/02/2021 16:50

While sharing everyone's Shock at what is being revealed, maybe posters should be cautious about posting certain metaphors as this relates to a court case? I'm sure some people will be desperate to try to keep a lid on these events. Just a thought.

TheLaughingGenome · 11/02/2021 16:58

@PurpleHoodie

What are their case/professional histories Laughing?
See under Old Square Chambers.
SultanaSofa · 11/02/2021 17:03

Wow. That is quite some twitter thread from @ALLIANCELGB. On tenterhooks to see what tomorrow will bring.

PurpleHoodie · 11/02/2021 17:07

Thanks Laughing.

PurpleHoodie · 11/02/2021 17:09

No Sultana no.

Housework needs doing! I'm now torn.

MaudTheInvincible · 11/02/2021 19:41

I’m also teeth grindingly upset about the egregious use of the reflexive in that first para I’ve never met anyone who uses that who wasn’t awful in some other way.

Grin
TheLaughingGenome · 11/02/2021 19:49

Indeed, it's like getting on a tour bus from hell and the first thing the totally unwanted tour guide says is, 'Hello and welcome to yourselves, my name is Keanu, and I'm here to look after yourselves and chat to you about all them old buildings on the route today.'

CharlieParley · 11/02/2021 19:58

Thanks to all of you keeping us updated by reporting on the hearing and explaining what's going on.

WildishBambino · 11/02/2021 20:13

I donated a small amount to Allison's first crowdfunder, and did the same again last week. After hearing that Stonewall ordered her Chambers to discipline her or face consequences - and were brazen enough to put that in writing - I will be digging again.

Xanthangum · 11/02/2021 20:29

Stonewall ordered her Chambers to discipline her or face consequences

Just ...everyone, please
Think about any organisation that might order your employer to do that to you. There aren't any are there?

ChakaDakotaRegina · 11/02/2021 21:52

A group that ‘promotes’ diversity and acceptance...yeah. Is anyone else getting the impression that the stonewall contingent in this are probably not black female lesbians?

I’m interested in diversity so I’d be keen to see who this diverse group of people are...

highame · 12/02/2021 07:24

Any chances of a strike out have gone, (I think LGB Alliance said) so if today allows AB to drag SW in, along with the unnamed persons (who will be named at some point in the future) what do we think the chances are of a settlement and what will AB insist on as part of that settlement. I'll bet she wont allow non-disclosure cause public interest init Grin

SophocIestheFox · 12/02/2021 08:27

@WildishBambino

I donated a small amount to Allison's first crowdfunder, and did the same again last week. After hearing that Stonewall ordered her Chambers to discipline her or face consequences - and were brazen enough to put that in writing - I will be digging again.
It is just so, so dim to put any of it in writing. If you’re putting the squeeze on someone to dismiss an employee for a trumped up reason related to their politics and beliefs, you do it over the phone or in person, you utter nanas. You don’t write that stuff down, like you’ve never heard of a data subject request.

All of a piece with their utter disregard for the law, as evidenced by their desire to “get ahead” of the Equality Act by issuing guidance that doesn’t adhere to it.

Xanthangum · 12/02/2021 09:04

. If you’re putting the squeeze on someone to dismiss an employee for a trumped up reason related to their politics and beliefs, you do it over the phone or in person, you utter nanas. You don’t write that stuff down

You write it down if you think younare untouchable/ above the law / have enough friends in high places to know it won't ever come back to bite you.

Oops.

Coffeeandcocopops · 12/02/2021 09:28

@Xanthangum

. If you’re putting the squeeze on someone to dismiss an employee for a trumped up reason related to their politics and beliefs, you do it over the phone or in person, you utter nanas. You don’t write that stuff down

You write it down if you think younare untouchable/ above the law / have enough friends in high places to know it won't ever come back to bite you.

Oops.

Exactly. They think they are better than us and excluded from the law.
SophocIestheFox · 12/02/2021 09:29

Fair point! Oops indeed. Maybe SW would do better to think of themselves as being above suspicion, like Caesar’s wife then Grin

OvaHere · 12/02/2021 09:51

Thanks for the links.

OvaHere · 12/02/2021 10:00

This isn't easy to follow as a non legal person but I think the current discussion is around how blurred the lines are around TELI and GCC

LGB Alliance
@ALLIANCELGB
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(J): on Brewer. Meeting on parl strategy. Brewer noted as Teli/GC but was not there to represent GC. trans Equality legal initiative. Brewer did help found Teli but that doesn’t make Teli a GC group any more than GC is LGB alliance group because Claimsnt is involved with it.
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(J): Brewer was not acting on behalf of GC. Judge challenges that. It was a GC working group. Surely if management sets up such a working group it is acting on behalf of GC

nauticant · 12/02/2021 10:03

This is relevant to understanding what's going on in court today:

Yesterday we heard from Ben Cooper QC for the claimant (@BluskyeAllison) and today we should hear from Robin Moira White & Mr Johnston for the defendants (@gardencourtlaw & @stonewalluk)

mamas12 · 12/02/2021 10:03

Thanks for all the breakdowns so grateful as not on Twitter atm

nauticant · 12/02/2021 10:17

Without going into a tedious explanation, the LGBAlliance twitter thread has broken continuity and continues here:

mobile.twitter.com/ALLIANCELGB/status/1360163707175776256