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Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall

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OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2020 08:20

There is a crowdfunder so I won't share the link but here a part of the text. It's long but brilliant and this isn't the half of it. Off to find my wallet...

The new trans activism: all scrutiny and critical voices labelled ‘transphobic’

In early 2018, when I first heard that plans were underway to make the lives of trans people easier, my reaction was that this was a good thing and I did not give it a second thought. I kept coming across the term ‘TERF’ but ignored it. I thought that bigots were simply being called out.

Then one day I clicked on a link: terfisaslur.com where someone had collated the online abuse that was being directed at women who I realised had entirely valid concerns and questions about the wisdom of replacing sex with gender.
I learnt that the new trans activism wants to smash the distinctions between men and women; replacing sex with notions of gender identity; making sexual difference a matter of self identification; and demands that any and every man that wishes to identify as a woman must be allowed to do so.
I learnt that the new trans activism is focusing, inexplicably, on young children and declaring them ‘trans’; treating puberty as a disease to be blocked with powerful drugs; delivering our young people into the arms of a multi-million pound industry of big pharmaceutical companies and plastic surgeons.
I saw that the same males who would have society regard them as women, were quick to brandish knives, axes, baseball bats and nooses, as they threatened with rape women who questioned the wisdom of replacing sex with gender —TERFs.
I realised that the new trans activism operated a crude but effective system of punishment and reward: agree with every demand of the trans lobby and be safe; object and face vilification, abuse, boycott, character assassination and cancellation.
I was horrified (and terrified).
I wanted to look away, to pretend that I had not seen it; that it did not reveal the worst woman-hating, lesbian hating, misogyny that I have ever come across in my lifetime.
I did not look away and I urge others not to either. Thanks to brave women who have come before me, such as the late, great, Magdalen Berns, whose courage and no nonsense approach to calling out the new trans activism as the men’s rights movement it so clearly is, gave me courage.
I realised that I did not have to accept that any man can claim to be legally a woman, without having to undergo any hormone or surgical intervention, psychological evaluation or risk assessment.
I realised that it was okay and necessary to say that it is reckless and naive to think that men will only identify as women if they are stunning and brave and harmless: that the wicked, abusive, predatory, unwell and downright cantankerous will, by some miracle, refuse to take advantage of free and easy access to women, to their politics, safe spaces, sports, legal protections and identities.
I was shocked to discover that significant numbers of male sex offenders are permitted to identify as women and nothing is being done to stop them. In England and Wales, some 40 per cent or more of trans identified males in the prison population are men with convictions for sex offences, including rape and possession of the most serious indecent images of children. I read a steady stream of news reports from around the world of males who identify as women committing serious sex offences.
It is repugnant to me and wholly unacceptable, and frankly unbelievable, that the new trans activism demands that sex crimes committed by males who identify as women are recorded as having been committed by women; and that these males can demand to be referred to by female pronouns.
I discovered that women incarcerated in prison are left vulnerable to serious sexual assault and mental anguish, as males, including sex offenders, are locked up with them. The new trans activism demands that a man’s desire to identify as a woman is more important than the right of imprisoned women to safety and dignity. These women have no way to escape, no choice, they are locked up. I do not see how this is anything other than state facilitated abuse and mental torture.
Where there should have been discussion, investigation and inquiry, there has been the silencing of concerned and critical voices; not voices from the far right, but from women like me, who are of and from the progressive left.
Mantras have been chanted because the new trans activism is a movement that cannot bear scrutiny: TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN; TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS; TRANS PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE; PROTECT OUR TRANS SIBLINGS, and so on, do nothing to engage with and address the serious concerns that exist about replacing sex with gender.
The new trans activists are joined by politicians, journalists, lawyers, writers, entire organisations, and assorted celebrities, in the chanting of these mantras to shut down debate, while others who are appalled at what they see happening are too afraid to speak out. It is cult like behaviour, it is Orwellian, and it has disgraced and shamed a generation.
Labelling all critical voices ‘transphobic’ is a cynical political ploy of the new trans activism. It must be resisted.

Surviving child sexual abuse: understanding that women and girls are oppressed because of their sex and not their gender identity
The man who sexually abused me as a 9 year old little girl; the man who targeted my single-parent mother; the man who told me that I could trust him whilst he slipped drugs into my orange squash to render me helpless as he sexually assaulted me, was tried and convicted of multiple sexual assaults against me in 2015, and sentenced to 10 years imprisonment. He was released from prison last month (May 2020) to serve out the rest of his sentence on licence.

I make this disclosure now because I feel compelled to stand in solidarity with other women with similar experiences of male physical and sexual violence. It is not weaponising trauma to say so, any more than recounting racist abuse is.

We must not allow men or women to bury, minimise and ignore the visceral reality of male violence. We must not allow the new trans activism to force survivors back into the closet; this would be an abuser’s charter.

It should be a cause of great alarm that the new trans activism takes such a regressive and shaming attitude to disclosures of abuse. This culture of denial and belittling has been the bedrock and the hallmark of every abuse scandal. It is a red flag that signals a safeguarding catastrophe in the making.
It is women like me whose lives have been torn apart and seriously blighted by wanton acts of male violence that know that men are often not who they say they are or claim to be.
I know that conflating sex with notions of gender identity will leave women with no legally enforceable boundaries against any man.

I know that if the new trans activism is not brought to heel, women will disappear as a political class.

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Imnobody4 · 06/02/2021 12:52

Have just donated. Read the legal detail underpinning the case. Really interesting. I do admire her.

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 06/02/2021 13:18

Donated again. She's inspiring.

BrandineDelRoy · 06/02/2021 16:57

Donated from Texas. Bumping.

lionheart · 06/02/2021 21:06

Just saw this on twitter @unbridled -- digging.

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall
MaudTheInvincible · 06/02/2021 21:42

Fantastic effort so far! The speed at which these fundraising efforts raise money is illustrative of the strength of feeling. £21k in a day, at an average of £27.50 each donation.

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall
lionheart · 06/02/2021 21:46

Daley Thompson
@Daley_thompson
Replying to
@BluskyeAllison

'Hi you don’t know me from Adam but I just had to donate to your court case. There are a couple of reasons that I have but the biggest is I don’t like bullies. Good luck. X'

PronounssheRa · 06/02/2021 21:53

Hhhmm deleted for sharing a twitter link, not a link to any funding site!

I don't care, Daley has made my day.

AmericanSlang · 06/02/2021 22:36

Me too PronounssheRa it's great to see someone like Daley standing up against the bullies :) I remember seeing him at the WPUK meeting in London about women's sports, when there seemed to be hardly any men willing to stand in support of women. I've donated again too

Ifyourefeelingsinister · 06/02/2021 22:51

Daley Thompson! What a hero - v pleased

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/02/2021 22:54

Daley! What a great guy.

Carryingon · 06/02/2021 22:59

Donated. Found the link by googling her name and going onto her website.

BrandineDelRoy · 07/02/2021 02:19

I've donated again! Just trying to bump. £25 equated to $37. 😬

PurpleHoodie · 07/02/2021 04:02
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MaudTheInvincible · 07/02/2021 13:20

Good to see this still rattling along!

highame · 07/02/2021 13:59

It looks like she's made her own arrangements away from CrowdJustice. I assume they're maintaining their prejudiced position against her. This is what a fight back looks like Grin

If she's also taking Crowd Justice to court, they're not likely to want her details emblazoned on their website for all to see. I wonder if Crowd Justice have a level of regret at their rather shortsighted actions. I do hope so

MaudTheInvincible · 07/02/2021 15:06

Yes, I hope so too highame. They behaved disgracefully, and showed that as soon as they are under any pressure they will bow to the authoritarians. They wouldn't stand up to the bullies, they didn't stand by their own high ideals, and they have lost their credibility because of it, imo.

DialSquare · 07/02/2021 15:09

They've also lost out on revenue through the extra fee donation. I always decline now and many others that know about Allison's case do too.

OvaHere · 11/02/2021 10:52

Virtual hearing happening this morning.

Live tweet thread here

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1359811845704581120

OvaHere · 11/02/2021 11:00

Looks like this hearing is to sort out whether it's reasonable to to allow certain redactions of public officials.

highame · 11/02/2021 11:08

My application is to add Respondents to my case. At the time that the case was pleaded, I had only limited information available to me: I knew what had happened to me, but not who had done it, and how. I made a series of Subject Access Requests, the responses to which I had not received by the time I reached the time to lodge my claim. Once I received them, and in response to how the Respondents have chosen to defend the claim, I have applied to amend the claim to reflect what they told me, and what I learnt about who had been responsible. That will be dealt with at the February hearing. The amendment is not a change to the unlawful activity I allege took place, but it does reframe some of the legal argument behind it.

From Allison's site. Hope this helps. Unfortunately I have to go out, so wont be able to tune in. Hope someone will update the board

OvaHere · 11/02/2021 11:09

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Robin Moira White confirming that the three individuals under discussion ARE members of Stonewall’s trans advisory group. They have assisted Stonewall but are not employees. RMW saying their names should not be public domain.

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Ben Cooper QC these individuals roles are important. It’s not normal to redact names. There is a public interest in public justice.

OvaHere · 11/02/2021 11:10

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Ben Cooper QC and Robin Moira White making final points.

Judge Stout talking about importance of open justice.

OvaHere · 11/02/2021 11:15

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Judge Stout: For this hearing only I have decided that the three individuals will remain redacted
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Judge Stout: Stonewall has not produced evidence to show that principal of open justice should be discarded. If this was a full hearing my judgement would be different.

OvaHere · 11/02/2021 11:17

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Judge Stout: If their names were made public their article 8 rights would be impacted. Order of redaction only for this hearing. May be different at full hearing.

Winesalot · 11/02/2021 11:19

That is interesting OvaHere. Thanks for reporting in.