Rebecca Wrong-Daily Sacked

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For apparently sharing something anti-Semitic.

Oh dear how sad.

I imagine the ‘you diamond’ bit was intended to be in relation to the massively pro-Corbyn stance that Maxine also expresses in the article.

Don’t get me wrong I am very happy to see RLB off the shadow front bench and I have no interest in defending her. However I was of the understanding that there was a clear distinction that criticism of Israel is not in and of itself anti-Semitic. I’m very surprised the independent included that comment though, it’s clearly unsupported/unevidenced and does make me think a lot less of Maxine Peake.

I can see this was an opportunity to bin RLB and look decisive, especially in contrast to BoJo not sacking anyone. She could have deleted, apologised, oh I didn’t mean it that way etc. I guess my reaction is being wary of opportunism. But there’s no great loss here, I think it’s definitely better to not have RLB at Labour’s top table.

Wasn’t it on here that someone said one wrong step and she’d be gone?

Good riddance.

She could have deleted, apologised, oh I didn’t mean it that way etc.

It was her refusal to do so which got her the sack.

And so often 'Israel' is attacked when the real target is Jews

Criticism of Israel should be permitted and not conflated with anti semitism.

A bit more deadwood to clear from labour ranks yet, but so far Starmer is doing a great job.

RLB new she was forwarding a dog whistle, as education secretary she should have easily been able to spot it that in the article and realised she shouldn't have retweeted it.

It's also ironic of maxine peak to be so anti capitalist when she herself heavily uses tax loop holes, but that's par of the course of a champagne socialist.

@Xenia

I am hoping for 10 years of Tory rule so this is no great loss but we really have gone too far in sacking people for just forwarding things on or exercising freedom of speech. It is now like those McCarthy anti communist days in the USA. We somehow need to move back to a time of freedom including no CV19 restrictions and back to more freedom of speech and respect for the views of others.

I agree with this. I don't like rlb and think she has been rubbish on getting schools fully open again. She has done nothing to advocate for children's education but i don't think this is a sacking matter. It is just an opportunity for keir to sack her as he would never have given her a job in the first place if she hadn't of been running against him for leadership to keep momentum on side. He has wanted an excuse to sack her from the moment he gave her the job. Maxine Peake anti semitic though? That's news to me and more shocking.

All the people on Twitter saying he is destroying the party - was it not the party that voted him in?

Peake’s statement, endorsed by Long-Bailey, is antisemitic because it blames Jews for a problem that is not their fault. It indulges in the millennia-old phenomenon of accusing Jews of having a hand in everything that goes wrong, and deliberately seeking to harm humanity.

Blaming Jews for American racism is no different to Europeans in the Middle Ages accusing Jews of creating plague outbreaks by poisoning wells, or blaming the local Jewish population whenever a Christian child went missing or was murdered.

Furthermore, it also lets American cops off the hook. American white supremacy existed for hundreds of years before the state of Israel was even created. American police have been murdering people of colour for far longer than Israel has existed as well.

If you see something bad happening in the world, and instantly see the ‘hand of Israel’ then you are an antisemite.

@SuckingDieselFella yes, I think you’re analysis is how it went down.

Besides, all Western police forces collaborate on training and share ‘best practice.’

For obvious reasons, Israeli police have far more experience dealing with suicide bombers and conducting counterinsurgency operations than most of their western counterparts. That is largely what their ‘training’ of other countries’ police forces consists of.

If you seriously think that it was Israeli police who trained American soldiers how to kneel on people’s necks then you need to get a grip of yourself and hold American police accountable for their own actions.

American police were kneeling on people’s necks before Israel existed. Besides, all Western police forces collaborate on training and share ‘best practice.’

For obvious reasons, Israeli police have far more experience dealing with suicide bombers and conducting counterinsurgency operations than most of their western counterparts. That is largely what their ‘training’ of other countries’ police forces consists of.

If you seriously think that it was Israeli police who trained American soldiers how to kneel on people’s necks then you need to get a grip of yourself and hold American police accountable for their own actions.

American police were kneeling on people’s necks before Israel existed.

The point is that there is plenty of history between blacks and whites in the US, dating from well before Zionism, let along Israel, existed. There was no reason at all to bring Israel into it, and the fact that Maxine dreamt up some ridiculous and unfounded allegation suggests what her real priorities are.

It would have been just as ridiculous to say that BLM activists had spent time with the Taliban in Afghanistan learning how to undermine the US, but of course no-one would have printed such rubbish.

There isn't any actual evidence for the claim about secret seminars though is there? I certainly don't agree with everything the Israeli state does, but that's the sort of thing you really need to be providing some receipts for.

As OliveKitteridgeAgain said exactly.

She is one of those “It can’t possibly happen to me too cause I’m an ally!”
No lady you are just as much easily fired, shouted-down, cast aside woman as the rest.

I’m waiting on Pinknews to show some solidarity for her.

Sorry, lydia - if I'd seen your posts I wouldn't have bothered with mine!

She could have deleted, apologised, oh I didn’t mean it that way etc.

It was her refusal to do so which got her the sack.

Ah. Well that’s just plain stupid on her part then, or she wanted out.

British police have also trained and received training from US police.

British police have also restrained people by kneeling on their necks, on occasion resulting in their death.

Yet nobody leaps to the conclusion that Britain is directly responsible for Floyd’s murder. Only one country is subject to those sorts of conspiratorial accusations.

Maybe you think it’s a coincidence that that particular country is the world’s only Jewish state. But I certainly don’t.

@lydia7986 I see that. But the piece has been stitched together from fragments of what she said. I’m not sure it’s fair to imagine she expressed her views exactly as you’ve suggested. The original article also gave complete credence to the claim by saying amnesty supported what she said. They have later changed the article. So RLB may genuinely have believed this to be true rather than a conspiracy. Isn’t it poor journalism?

There isn't any actual evidence for the claim about secret seminars though is there?

No, of course not. More than that, the Baltimore police have actually put a lot of effort into training to try to eliminate racism. The police officer knew and disliked George Floyd- he wasn't following procedure, he was out of control.

So you're pleased that a woman got sacked from a high level position because she retweeted an article that suggested, as part of it, that Israel security forces trained US police in techniques, including knee holding, even though the same article then said that Israel denied this?

"I imagine the ‘you diamond’ bit was intended to be in relation to the massively pro-Corbyn stance that Maxine also expresses in the article."

In which case Wrong Daily has even less of an intellect than you would think.

"However I was of the understanding that there was a clear distinction that criticism of Israel is not in and of itself anti-Semitic. "

No it isn't. But it depends on the way you criticise. If you judge Israel by different standards from any other country in the world then anti-Semitism comes into play. This is actually part of the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism, which Corbyn initially refused to adopt when he was leader. It also depends on who is making the criticisms. It's clear from the article that Maxine Peake has issues with Israel. And if she's alleging that Israeli security services are providing training on to kill certain ethnic groups, she may have other issues.

Hmmm personally think her card was marked ages ago and she should have been more careful as a result.
Glad she's gone.

Corbyn in a skirt, as she was known. Point proven.

yes, funny how it is the only Jewish run state that gets flagged up in these situations. Plenty of other countries not known for their compassionate policing never get a mention.

Yet nobody leaps to the conclusion that Britain is directly responsible for Floyd’s murder. Only one country is subject to those sorts of conspiratorial accusations

The people responsible for his murder are the US police. Who is blaming Israel?

Awww Benjamin Butterworth is unhappy with Owen Jones. Let the spiral continue... spiralling

I think the Maxine Peake comment was a bit borderline - not blatant antisemitism but suggestive of a certain mindset towards Israel which has been tolerated for too long.

But in light of everything that's happened with JC and given her Shadow Cabinet job it shows a shocking lack of judgement.

I suspect Kier was looking for an excuse to sack her and this is a ball in the back of the net. And she's a dick so good riddance.