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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Superdrug person who menstruate

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Womanwhobleeds · 18/06/2020 16:36

Never posted on this board before, but nervous, but I’m furious.
Just bought some towels from Superdrug and the first line on the back of the packet is ‘A person who menstruates..’ I’m a woman ffs!
I shop in Superdrug all the time for their cruelty free stuff but no more!

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SteakExpectations · 01/09/2020 20:16

Bit then that doesn’t account for the erection havers that use condoms for so called “posh wanks”...

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 01/09/2020 20:24

[quote SteakExpectations]@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

“Human receptacle of said ejaculate“? Grin[/quote]
I’m not bloody saying that to dd 😱

I’m not THAT tired of life

😀

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 01/09/2020 20:25

Calling her a receptacle will not end well...

She won’t know what it means for a start

WaltzingBetty · 01/09/2020 20:35

@DRH90

Being trans is recognised scientifically, it is only rejected by the ignorant.

No one has rejected trans people - obviously they exist. But changing you gender identity does not change your sex - gender and sex are not the same. See the scientific evidence that the Rugby governing body based their recent ruling on, on the recent article in the media about a trans person who denied their sex to the extent that they nearly died of kidney failure as their kidney values were being measured against their gender identity rather than their biological sex. Denying sex is medically dangerous and Erasing biological sex is as dangerous for transpeople as it is for women and does nothing but support misogyny in society.

So many feminists have been campaigning for years to ensure women who do not menstruate are not made to feel any less of a woman for not doing so. Your ignorance to that and your decision to only bring now is an attempt to distract from the discussion at hand.
No one has suggested that women who do not menstruated are not women. Women who do not menstruate have never objected to the word woman being used as a descriptor on sanitary products or other items. They are comfortable in their female identity regardless of menstruation and understand the feelings of their fellow women. What has been said is that only women menstruate.

This is another one of those situations that really boils down the the age old 'Be Kind' mantra. The text on the back of that box just made someone feel like they aren't a freak, someone feel like they belong, someone feel like they have a place in a world that constantly rejects their existence because it doesn't conform to a system that was never natural or logical. If it doesn't affect you but can help someone else then why on earth would you take issue with it?

Because being kind works both ways. If I respect trans people's chosen pronouns then I expect them to respect my biological sex. I do not expect the dictionary definition of woman to be erased - from sanitary products, from marketing materials, from legislation designed to safeguard girls and protect women from abuse.

It's interesting that the TRAs don't ever object to the use of the word 'man' isn't it? It's is ONLY the word woman that is offensive - why is that? That's because it's not about being kind - it's about promoting misogyny and erasing women's rights.

MichelleofzeResistance · 01/09/2020 20:48

You can't really argue that it's unkind to deny people's personal choice of identity in language.... while simultaneously arguing that women having their personal choice of language erased, denied and forcibly redefined against their will doesn't affect them and doesn't matter.

'Be kind' is only coherent if it's a value you extend equally to all.

Deliriumoftheendless · 01/09/2020 21:17

@DRH90

I am so saddened to see this much nastiness and exclusion in a forum for mums. Please bear in mind that your children may not now or in the future identify with the sex they were assigned to at birth, and that they deserve to feel that their existence isn't ridiculed. Being trans is recognised scientifically, it is only rejected by the ignorant.

So many feminists have been campaigning for years to ensure women who do not menstruate are not made to feel any less of a woman for not doing so. Your ignorance to that and your decision to only bring now is an attempt to distract from the discussion at hand.

As for to person wanting to correct it to 'Women and people who menstruate'... you know women are people right? 'People' already includes you.

This is another one of those situations that really boils down the the age old 'Be Kind' mantra. The text on the back of that box just made someone feel like they aren't a freak, someone feel like they belong, someone feel like they have a place in a world that constantly rejects their existence because it doesn't conform to a system that was never natural or logical. If it doesn't affect you but can help someone else then why on earth would you take issue with it?

No one is ridiculing anyone- we just want to retain the word woman, the word that describes us.

I say women and people who menstruate not because I particularly like that phrase, but I do wish to keep the word women - especially for female biological processes. I don’t actually think transmen and NB people should be dehumanised by being referred to as menstruators, but as we women are told it’s ok to be called cervix havers, uterus owners, menstruators then maybe it is acceptable to them. If not they can ask to be referred to as they choose.

And please bear in mind, according to statistics there a greater chance my daughter will grow up to be ok with being a woman and I would like her to have a word for that. The word we have always had. Woman. So be kind yourself, please.

OneEpisode · 01/09/2020 21:43

DRH90 Please bear in mind that your children may not now or in the future identify with the sex they were assigned to at birth, and that they deserve to feel that their existence isn't ridiculed.
My dc don’t identify with their sex now, and nor do I. None of us are intersex so none of us had a sex assigned. However I do ridicule them and they ridicule me. Is that ok?

Apollo440 · 01/09/2020 21:46

Being trans is recognised scientifically, it is only rejected by the ignorant

Oh please share this science with us. Having incontrovertible evidence will end the debate. I mean, who would want to be ignorant? I wait with baited breath.

Deltoids1 · 01/09/2020 22:09

Here’s something I’ve been pondering. If trans people have always existed (which is a genuine fact), how come it’s only been in the past few years they’ve become so demanding they make companies remove the word woman from their products?
And what would happen if said companies didn’t change the words? Would they all faint on the threshold of every Superdrug? Have palpitations in the San Pro aisle of Tesco?
What didn’t this happen before DRH90?

Heartlake · 01/09/2020 22:27

Adult. Human. Female.

We shouldn't have to set ourselves on fire to keep others warm.

gardenbird48 · 01/09/2020 22:27

So many feminists have been campaigning for years to ensure women who do not menstruate are not made to feel any less of a woman for not doing so.
I really don’t understand what you mean by this. Also, I would imagine that a woman who doesn’t menstruate won’t be spending much time perusing the sanitary products.

Poota · 01/09/2020 22:34

Goddess, when I no longer menstruate it will be a point of much joy that I won't have to go down that aisle in the supermarket or chemist. I will still be a woman though, as will every person who purchases items in that aisle for their own neccessary use.

And honestly, anyone who needs to call women 'people' to clarify that they are actually people is a huge sexist.

Women are not an identity. We are people, so no additional or alternative term is necessary to clarify that.

Deliriumoftheendless · 01/09/2020 22:39

Poota I bought a menstrual cup about 4months ago. Haven’t had a period since. That’s my top tip for getting rid of ‘em 😂

Poota · 01/09/2020 22:43

Delirium I had a coil fitted and I'm hoping that will knock the bastards on the head once and for all. I've done my stint. Grin

ChakaDakotaRegina · 02/09/2020 00:33

We are being nice - to women and girls. Nice IS one of those things that is not pie. There is plenty of nice to go around.

Fairness is more like a balancing see saw. You can’t weight this all in ones sides favour. Preferred language, feeling comfortable in certain spaces, participation in sport, the narrative on medical treatment of teenagers - we should never only listen to one (tiny) side. Not when this really will have an overall negative effect on women (people formally known as women if you prefer).

I really shouldn’t care about tampon text but TWAW is being shoved front and centre and women are now shunted over to menstruaters, cervix havers etc. We will always need a word for women - just a broad descriptive word. It should not be any more ‘triggering’ to people trying to disassociate from their biology than their actual biology.

Durgasarrow · 02/09/2020 00:54

I fail to see how it's my job to validate people who are claiming to be something they're not.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 02/09/2020 00:55

So many feminists have been campaigning for years to ensure women who do not menstruate are not made to feel any less of a woman for not doing so.

What campaigns? Women don’t menstruate for many reasons; I cannot recall any campaign to reassure pre-pubertal girls, or pregnant women or elite athletes or women on birth control or menopausal women that they are still women.

Thing is, when you say something this silly, on a feminist board, no less, everything you say becomes suspect.

CoffeeTeaChocolate · 02/09/2020 08:26

I also wonder about these campaigns about reassuring women that they still are women if they don’t menstruate?

I still would advice any woman who stops menstruating to have a checkup with a doctor (pregnant, menopausal, elite athletes). There could be a medical issue or completely normal, but it is good to check it out.

My late grandmother was a very verbal feminist and grew up on a farm. I would love to hear her views on “not only women menstruate”. I think she was overjoyed when her periods stopped and she never said anything to me which made me suspect that she thought a campaign was needed to make her feel like a women again. Strange as she was incredibly vocal about equal pay, equal education, maternity rights, etc, etc.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 02/09/2020 08:34

So many feminists have been campaigning for years to ensure women who do not menstruate are not made to feel any less of a woman for not doing so

I wondered who said this and just popped back to check, shouldnt have bothered...it was fairly obvious who’d said it

What campaigns? To be fair i think everything you’ve said is suspect, but dance is perfectly right.

Deliriumoftheendless · 02/09/2020 09:15

Come on! Don’t you all remember those campaigns from the 70s and 80s? There was that great one “Just because you’ve gone through the menopause doesn’t mean you’re now a man.” I think there was a jingle and everything. Prior to that all women thought once your periods stopped you were a dude and they all went back to work and got pay rises and shit.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 02/09/2020 09:40

A jingle!!??

Awesome

You must remember it delirium

C’mon....how EXACTLY did it go 😀

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 02/09/2020 09:41

Was it more of a ballad or rock anthem

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 02/09/2020 09:42

Or the stuff you get when you’re on hold on the phone or in a lift

Winesalot · 02/09/2020 10:02

It was the music they played at the hardware stores of course!

Poota · 02/09/2020 10:17

Whoa, Bodyform! You're still a woman when you don't neeeeeed it anymore!