Superdrug person who menstruate

[Womanwhobleeds]

Never posted on this board before, but nervous, but I’m furious.
Just bought some towels from Superdrug and the first line on the back of the packet is ‘A person who menstruates..’ I’m a woman ffs!
I shop in Superdrug all the time for their cruelty free stuff but no more!

Shit - do o now need to have that chat with DS?

I wonder how men would feel being called ‘persons who ejaculate.’ It’s absolute madness.

All this talk about who 'identifies' as what ... but these virtue-signalling organisations never seem to have taken a moment to consider whether many women identify as menstruators.

They just need to stop it. 'Women and transmen' if they want to be 'inclusive' to transitioning dysphoric females. Menstruation is a function of sex, not gender, so whether 'Nonbinary identities' have any 'validity' or not, they're 'nonbinary' with respect to gender.

I had a conversation with a woke female friend who insisted I identified as a woman. I told her again and again that I did not identify as a woman and she insisted I did. I am a woman in as much as I am a human. I don't identify as a human in as much as I don't identify as a woman. This has got utterly ridiculous and superdrug should be ashamed of themselves for erasing a meaningful word, woman.

Did you ask her how she knows, MrsJamin?

@MrsJamin

I had a conversation with a woke female friend who insisted I identified as a woman. I told her again and again that I did not identify as a woman and she insisted I did. I am a woman in as much as I am a human. I don't identify as a human in as much as I don't identify as a woman. This has got utterly ridiculous and superdrug should be ashamed of themselves for erasing a meaningful word, woman.

Oh now I get it - the woke are mind-readers and the deciders of what we think? How amazing.

I had a conversation with a woke female friend who insisted I identified as a woman. I told her again and again that I did not identify as a woman and she insisted I did. I am a woman in as much as I am a human. I don't identify as a human in as much as I don't identify as a woman. This has got utterly ridiculous and superdrug should be ashamed of themselves for erasing a meaningful word, woman.
What fuckery is this?
By "accepting" (ha!) that you're a woman you're deemed to have made a conscious decision to be one - because of course the option to be a man is there for the taking, and you've consciously rejected it.
I couldn't be friends with a half witted baboon like this. God love them, whoever they are .

What happened to not assuming someone’s gender? 😂

Asshats.

Would this woke friend insist to someone that they 'identified' as black, or Asian, or white, or short, or tall? If not why not?

@MrsJamin

I had a conversation with a woke female friend who insisted I identified as a woman. I told her again and again that I did not identify as a woman and she insisted I did. I am a woman in as much as I am a human. I don't identify as a human in as much as I don't identify as a woman. This has got utterly ridiculous and superdrug should be ashamed of themselves for erasing a meaningful word, woman.

I had an argument with an otherwise extremely intelligent colleague who kept trying to make this point.

I tried to point out that it made as much sense to me as saying I 'identified' as having blue eyes. I wonder how these people would react if someone 'identified' as being pregnant. You either are or you aren't!

I don't go around "identifying" as a woman consciously, but I don't mind saying I "identify" as a woman in that I can look at the definition "adult human female" and say "yup, that's me".

It's important because if someone changes the definition of "woman" to something that includes biological males, that person has taken away my ability to identify as a woman in any meaningful way (ie in any way that is more specific than identifying as a human being)

We need to stop using the word ‘identify’ - people who ‘are’ don’t ‘identify as’. People who want to be or pretend to be ‘identify as’. Surely it should be ‘identify with’?

Indentifying with something has a very different meaning to indentifying as. The latter suggests you've inveigled yourself into a group you don't naturally belong in.
Certainly in these strange time of being allowed to identify as anything you please.

Actually identifying ‘with’ implies a sympathy or understanding. ‘As’ just sounds like toy have taken their name/identity as you wish.

I often wonder if the word woman is removed, not to appease trans men (of the female sex) who know their biology very well indeed. No, it is to appease trans women (men) who aspire to womanhood and want to ensure that they are included in every aspect of it.

Not all, but many.

Don't waste your time or money buying a muzzle for your pit-bull and having the faff of fitting it every time you take it out for a walk.

Just tell anybody who asks that it identifies as a poodle....

Surely there's also the idea with 'identity' that it is partly how society in general considers you (whether that's a good or a bad thing)?

As was illustrated in a very well-observed Mitchell & Webb sketch, if you have your identity 'stolen' by somebody wanting to defraud you of your money, they haven't actually taken anything inherent in who you are from you; they've simply convinced your bank that they are you - possibly using fake documents purporting to be yours - and the bank has wrongly imputed your identity to them.

It all makes much more sense to simply base considerations primarily on what you ARE and then, if you choose to associate yourself with secondary characteristics or interests - be they personality traits, gender stereotypes or hobbies - that's a personal, social and changeable matter and of no consequence whatsoever in law.

I often wonder if the word woman is removed, not to appease trans men (of the female sex) who know their biology very well indeed.

I think you may well be right there in many cases, but not all. There's the high-profile case of Freddy McConnell, a transman who has battled for a long time (I'm not sure if it's all been resolved yet) to be recognised as the father of his baby, in spite of the fact that the law (not illogically) requires the person who gives birth to a child to be declared on the BC as the mother.

I don't see how it matters which traits, identities, personalities or interests you ascribe to yourself - these are all very much secondary to the fact that, if you have given birth to a child, you are first and foremost the child's mother; equally, if you are a child's father, you can never have actually given birth to them.

A BC is just a record of legal fact anyway, that gets filed away and is hardly ever referred back to - it's not like somebody is asking you to wear it on a t-shirt every day.

Cismyfatarse

Apologies - you had already made the end of my first sentence abundantly clear in what you originally wrote.

@LST

I agree. But from another POV what happen if the 'person who menstrates' has real issues with the fact that they're a woman. It doesn't really bother me if I'm honest.

Then they need to seek professional mental health services tbh. This is beyond ridiculous.

I’ve just had this company pop up on my Facebook ads.

Look like a nice ethical company who support women world wide. Never used their products (mooncup and washables here) but I thought others on this thread might like to.

graceandgreen.co/

Joysofstring
Excellent post. (Thursday 18:41)

This is way back on page 1 and I haven't RTFT but this kind of thing:

it's not affecting your mental health being referred to as a person and not a woman on a packet of pads

really gets on my tits (the ones that sprouted unbidden from my chest when I was 11).

People mimble on about "mental health" when what they mean is "having emotions". Everyone has emotions. Nobody's entitled to experience only nice emotions. Sure, there are stressful situations that can, sometimes, if they happen to somebody who's vulnerable to mental health problems, cause mental illness. But I'm fucked off with "mental health awareness" that focuses on (and these will be university-based examples as I recently completed a degree) how university exams are stressful, or missing your family back home can make you sad, and how we should reach out to friends for our "mental health" — all the while ignoring the existence of those with OCD, personality disorder, schizophrenia, major depressive disorder, hoarding disorder, delusional disorder, social phobia, trichotillomania, bipolar disorder, anorexia nervosa, generalised anxiety disorder, and the list goes on — put together, a not inconsiderable chunk of the population.

I have a mental illness — I'm bipolar. Sometimes it makes me believe really weird shit. I'm not entitled to have everyone agree with my delusions just because it upsets me if they challenge them. My mental illness is real, sometimes excruciating, life-threatening and disabling. I have to take dangerous medications that affect my daily functioning and long-term may cause serious physical damage, just to prevent me getting an episode of mental illness, because getting ill is even more dangerous.

You trivialise my mental illness and that of millions of others by suggesting that we should stop referring to women on sanitary towels, for the sake of somebody's "mental health".

Everybody, with or without mental illness, has to learn to live in a world where not everything is designed specifically to pander to them and their beliefs about who they are.

Bugger your pantyliner-based therapy.

Just before lockdown I bought a bunch of reusable stuff, I really like the modibodi pants - they really work and I haven't seen any "menustruators" nonsense in any of their comms. They're about £20 a pair but I think it's worth it for the lack of plastic in landfill and they're really comfortable too. I bought some reusable sanitary pads too but they slipped about a bit too much to be comfortable out and about, fine for lounging about the house though.

Shit. I've just ordered a great deal of Superdrug products for delivery (boycotting body shop obvs) and now this! Anyone emailed and had a response? I'm so tired.