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Mermaids response to JK Rowling

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SapphosRock · 13/06/2020 08:44

Interesting to read the other side:

mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/dear-jk-rowling/

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Beerincomechampagnetastes · 15/06/2020 17:00

I’m a cunt until I die.

PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 15/06/2020 17:01

But you aren't female, Ava, nor are you the same sex as the women in the women's toilets.

So if they are single sex you will not be expected to use them.

Unisex additional provision would be fine, though. There might even be some women keeping you company in there.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 15/06/2020 17:01

@DickKerrLadies

I really do love all you amazing cunty type women.

I just wanted to stop sitting on my hands long enough to tell you all that.

Grin
Datun · 15/06/2020 17:02

So, cant stay within guidelines, wrong about the Stonewall riots, wrong about the prevalence of predatory men, wrong about women being a threat, wrong about stats and wrong about being able to access women's toilets, once the government has issued their directives.

And it's not even a record.

AvaMonroe · 15/06/2020 17:03

@PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg

But you aren't female, Ava, nor are you the same sex as the women in the women's toilets.

So if they are single sex you will not be expected to use them.

Unisex additional provision would be fine, though. There might even be some women keeping you company in there.

Yes I am, No I shall be using the ladies as I always do thanks.
Datun · 15/06/2020 17:03

No I shall be using the ladies as I always do thanks.

#MeToo

oo0Tinkerbell0oo · 15/06/2020 17:04

All of the people coming under the trans umbrella do not do so 100% of the time. How can you even try to define yourself as female when you only spend a small % of the time as one. Only dressing as such on say a night out with like minded people, how does that give you the right to use a womans loo when you spend all the rest of the time as a male. I have experienced these loos and they are disgusting, not hygienic in the slightest.

DickKerrLadies · 15/06/2020 17:04

@Datun

So, cant stay within guidelines, wrong about the Stonewall riots, wrong about the prevalence of predatory men, wrong about women being a threat, wrong about stats and wrong about being able to access women's toilets, once the government has issued their directives.

And it's not even a record.

Just another day on FWR...
OvaHere · 15/06/2020 17:04

@NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace

You can't generalize.

You can. It's very dangerous for the majority to do otherwise.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton%27s_fence

In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, "I don't see the use of this; let us clear it away." To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: "If you don't see the use of it, I certainly won't let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.

If Ava, or anyone else, thinks that sex segregated spaces shouldn't exist then they need to explain the rationale behind them in the first place. In this instance it is for the privacy, dignity and safety of women and girls.

They then need to explain and evidence how the risk from males no longer exists and why women and girls no longer have a right to privacy and dignity.

AvaMonroe · 15/06/2020 17:05

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PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 15/06/2020 17:06

then expect to be asked to leave, Ava, & ultimately, if you repeat this behaviour, banned from the premises.

I used to run pubs 20 years ago. Male persons wandering into the Ladies is not a new phenomenon.

DickKerrLadies · 15/06/2020 17:07

Damn, you're good, Datun

I am a WOMAN in every fucking sense of the word I am a beautiful woman.

Just wanted to add that from Ava in case the rest of the post gets deleted.

Want to shout it at the women a little louder, Ava? That'll show us.

MonsteraCheeseplant · 15/06/2020 17:07

**
Where do you all I've that there are so many lurking sexual predators?

This reminds me of when white people say that they don't witness racism so it doesn't happen LOL of course you don't see it, you're white, it's not aimed at you!

Oh and also

It is our job as humans to fight off these predators together if and when these situations occur

From the bottom of my heart. Go fuck yourself.

tabulahrasa · 15/06/2020 17:08

“Maybe there could be a rule where there can't just be two people in a bathroom?”

Well that’s completely impractical, how do you know who’s in there?... that’s kind of why they’d be not safe to start with.

But my point was actually, how can they say within the same letter, trans women are women... but a problem with women’s safety isn’t trans people’s problem?

Because they’re not denying there is a problem.

TopBitchoftheWitches · 15/06/2020 17:08

No you are not Ava.

OvaHere · 15/06/2020 17:08

And we are sick of you lying Ava.

If you are a trans woman as you claim then by definition you are male.

Maybe come back when you can be more honest with us and yourself.

ArcheryAnnie · 15/06/2020 17:09

AvaMonroe if "99% of people just want to pee and get on with their day", what's the issue with you using the gents, then?

The gents won't mind, you won't then be excluding women from using women's facilities, and you still get to "pee and get on with your day".

After all, there's "female predators, too". Allegedly.

Datun · 15/06/2020 17:10

I guess you're not quite up to speed, Ava.

(and I could be wrong, but I'm pretty certain Liz Truss isn't segregating places to piss based on self perceived attractiveness).

But the new proposals are likely to be supported by feminist groups, who argue that trans rights infringe women’s rights. A source said: “At the moment local authorities are the ones who designate toilet use by gender. The government’s response is going to be to centralised.

The source added: “There will be big moves on safe spaces and women-only toilets

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9e002f8e-ad96-11ea-82a8-65abc6fe2bb6?shareToken=3ec63bc737d01f4bf6853c8c71ef3257&wgu=270525_54264_15922371189438_c36b658a96&wgexpiry=1600013118&utm_source=planit&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_content=22278

LastRoloIsMine · 15/06/2020 17:10

Oh Ava see this is why I said earlier I don't lie to my children.

I am a female I was born a female and as humans cannot change sex I will always be female.

You are a transwoman so you were born male. There is no shame in that. There is nothing female about you from your skeleton to your DNA its all male.
I cannot imagine what it feels like to live with gender dysphoria and I won't pretend to know.
You have my empathy but that doesn't mean you can force me to lie to you. I won't do that as I think you deserve better than to be lied to.

PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 15/06/2020 17:10

If you're a woman, why can't you use unisex provision, Ava?

I am a woman & I do.

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 15/06/2020 17:12

You can't generalize erm but if the figures show that approx 99% of sexual offenders are men then you canHmm
You allegedly being attacked by your sister doesn't change that.

AvaMonroe · 15/06/2020 17:12

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DickKerrLadies · 15/06/2020 17:12

When I were a lass, it was considered an insult to tell boys that they were girls because they didn't reach a certain standard of masculinity.

Now it seems it's a hate crime not to.

SarahTancredi · 15/06/2020 17:13

Why are you having a go at us?

If your greedy activist allies hadnt decided that dressing up for a stag night should be all the qualification needed to invade female only spaces when they want to then life would have continued as normal for the every day transgender people just going about their business and women turning a blind eye in the very very occasional occurrence that one of the 5000 grc owning individuals crossed paths.

This is on them. They re defined trans. They lied to you. They pushed the limits so horrifically that even the government who started this decided to end it.

Have it out with them instead.

FloralBunting · 15/06/2020 17:14

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

I can't. It's just too funny.

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