Mermaids response to JK Rowling

[SapphosRock]

Interesting to read the other side:

mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/dear-jk-rowling/

Surely it is clear, looking across LGBT+ organisations and taking a cursory glance at the response to your blog that the overwhelming majority of young people and LGB people support trans rights

While it is true that the vast majority of people support transgenderists having the same rights as all people should have, there are very few who agree that Lesbians and Gays must transition to gain them, or that transgender males, transwomen, should have the right to displace women and girls in the public sphere.

You know a couple of years ago when some of us warned that the narc rage was going to explode when the public pushback against TRA overreach began? Better settle in and get yourself a cup of tea and some biscuits, cause Ava won't be the last.

Wine rather than tea, I think! And some blood pressure tablets maybe don't mix those

The c word is a fighting word here.

Am I right in thinking it's often used as a synonym for "bitch" or TERF there? It's fairly gender neutral, as the kids say, here.

It'll be popcorn for me, because I failed female socialization and find the frustration as it sinks in that women really aren't ever going to do what we're told sinks in funny.

I might have to nick some of your popcorn, Kittens, just to keep my hands busy and stop me getting stuck into the argy-bargy.

I'll make enough for everyone! I just think that a drinking game would be unwise what with Covid making it hard to go to emergency right now.

The wisdom depends on the nature of the drink.

Personally I've yet to find an upper limit to how many pints I can put away with no ill effects (except on the loo roll stash). But that's pints of tea. If we're talking the perfumed piss of the devil gin then my limit's a gnome's thimble.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

The c word is a fighting word here.

Am I right in thinking it's often used as a synonym for "bitch" or TERF there? It's fairly gender neutral, as the kids say, here.

No. The result of reclaiming 'bitch' back in the seventies is that it now is considered neutral, inasmuch as using female as a slur can ever be, and is viewed as a mild insult. The 'C' word is rarely used and carries a great deal of hate weight.

What other lies were allegedly told and I can respond to each.

This would be a more impressive offer if Ava had actually responded to all the previous posts pointing out the easily-debunked factual errors.

@ArcheryAnnie

The trick is to have us do the hard part. We select all the phrases we know don't hold water so Ava can respond by spreading more mistruths while fully embracing victimhood and seeking further oppression.

Genius really.

^No. The result of reclaiming 'bitch' back in the seventies is that it now is considered neutral, inasmuch as using female as a slur can ever be, and is viewed as a mild insult.
The 'C' word is rarely used and carries a great deal of hate weight.^

Thank you, Bewilderness! I thought it was bad there.

Starts of so nicely I thought it would be a very fair and balanced article and in part it is trying.... good on them for that.

However they say:

"It’s worth remembering that surgical regret is proportionately very low amongst gender affirmation outpatients and research suggesting otherwise has been broadly disproven."

But earlier they use a study "Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden" on another point ... this study 'suggests' surgical regret to me, or at least shows surgery leads to worse mental health outcomes (which should be regreted):

"Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."

The comment that references this article (which they suggest has been disproven) says: "This research shows that trans women are no more a threat to women than other cisgender women." No it doesn't. They link to an article that actually says transwomen retain the crime rate of men. I'm assuming men are more of a threat to women than women statistically (please correct me if i'm wrong). The study says:

"Second, regarding any crime, male-to-females had a significantly increased risk for crime compared to female controls (aHR 6.6; 95% CI 4.1–10.8) but not compared to males (aHR 0.8; 95% CI 0.5–1.2). This indicates that they retained a male pattern regarding criminality."

Let's be clear that criminals (male or female, trans or non-trans) are the exception, not the rule and it may well be that transwomen are discriminated in the courts. I don't think trans men / women are generally anything but kind decent people who have genuine grievances. It's just a shame Mermaids use "evidence" that fundementally disagrees with their own points.

I'm with JKR. I have some minor criticisms of some of her comments but she's not the pope - she's had way too much grief and over-analysis over her essay, which to me is more about derogatory uses of 'TERF' and the curtailment of open debate.