Why are the trans community blaming women for the actions of men?

[ShirleyPhallus]

I’m reading everything I possibly can in light of JKR statement (which beautifully articulates everything I feel)

One thing I cannot see a clear answer to though is just why all the TRAs are just so angry at women. I have seen a serious of tweets linked on Facebook that talk about how dangerous JKR’s thinking is to the trans community as it makes “people” (I assume men?!) think that trans women are not real women.

Leaving aside the argument of whether they are or aren’t, does anyone know why TRAs aren’t more angry at the men who are actually doing the rape / murder / assault that also affects women and why they’re angry at women for standing up for themselves? This is more than just misogyny surely?

how dangerous JKR’s thinking is to the trans community as it makes “people” (I assume men?!) think that trans women are not real women

Ask any average man spewing "trans women are women" if they will shag a person with a penis.

It's a no no. (Unless they're bi/gay).

Even Owen Jones him very gay self said it was homophobic to ask him if he would perform oral sex on a trans man.

These men ALL know TWANW. They ALL know TMANM.

They are exceptionally gleefull about insulting and abusing women who say the very same thing.

Huh, it's almost as if we're living in a patriarchal misogynistic society after all.

@Gaspode I used to have that cartoon on my office wall as a junior lawyer. I was never asked to make the tea.

The main aim is to gain entry into the magical kingdom. Not just to enter it but to change it to their own image and ideology.

Imagine how angry it must make them when they are told that woman/female is a distinct class defined by biology. Sorry, you can't come in.

Destroying those they see as gatekeepers, through defamation and violent means, is the age old way to tear the gates down.

The fact that it allows for misogyny and hatred against actual women is a massive bonus.

They don't want to be us. They want to destroy us and replace us with themselves.

But without women who will tell them how special they are? Because it tends to be women doing the leg work by the looks of it.

@gncq I suspect people dislike being told what they believe as much as you do

Sister Wendy you have such a dark view of the world

But without women who will tell them how special they are? Because it tends to be women doing the leg work by the looks of it.

Handmaidens are welcome.

Nobody wants to destroy us (at least not the vast vast majority!)

Sister Wendy you have such a dark view of the world
Unfortunately the truth can seem this way to some people.

The truth

Nobody wants to destroy us (at least not the vast vast majority!)

Thankfully in most cases the destruction is not literal. And of course Not All Men - not most men.

I'm talking about a minority who are seriously disturbed or who are using this as a way to exorcise their misogyny.

It's deeply uncomfortable and painful to acknowledge. But if we don't do so we are walking blindfolded.

@SisterWendyBuckett

But without women who will tell them how special they are? Because it tends to be women doing the leg work by the looks of it.

Handmaidens are welcome.

But they mostly grow up and get partners, have kids, juggle childcare and childcare, look after aging parents... or is it like some men who seem to ‘trade in’ partners for younger, perter models when they start to get older...?

The hope is that our lived experiences as women will inevitably lead to a deeper understanding of the need to recognise that sex as a class needs to be exclusive.

Why are the trans community blaming women for the actions of men?

Seems to be their MO.

Have seen many comparisons made to the actions and words of some TRAs, to domestic abusers. I did see it but didn't fully appreciate it until I completed the Freedom Programme and then began reading "Why Does He Do That? Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men". Now it's crystal clear.

No one in their right mind would want the actual role of a woman within society, particularly when you already have the elevated position of a man. What you might want is to adorn yourself with the trinkets of woman hood without all the grunt work. Now that makes sense!

Ask any average man spewing "trans women are women" if they will shag a person with a penis.

Yes I was wondering this also, quite how consent in itself is now seen as transphobic somehow

@notyourhandmaid that’s exactly the kind of thing I was after, thank you

Yes about the prison sentences for women being ridiculous.
Alabama wants to give women life sentences for abortion or even miscarriage.

The trans community does not blame women for anything

Because it’s the first rule of misogyny.

The rules of misogyny

1st rule of misogyny: Women are responsible for what men do.
2nd rule of misogyny: Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
3rd rule of misogyny: Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
4th rule of misogyny: Women's opinions are violence against men thus male violence against women is justified.
5th rule of misogyny: WATM! Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
6th rule of misogyny: Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breast feeding babies deserve punishment.
7th rule of misogyny: Women should always be grateful to men for everything.
8th rule of misogyny: Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
9th rule of misogyny: Men always know the "real reasons" for everything women do and say.
10th rule of misogyny: The worst thing about male violence is that it males men look bad.
11th rule of misogyny: Basic pattern recognition skills are cruel and evil when they hurt men's feelings.

12th rule of misogyny: whatever women suffer from, men suffer from more.
13th rule of misogyny: Women are not oppressed! Rape and catcalling and objectification are all compliments, not oppression.
14th rule of misogyny: Women have all the rights they need: The right to remain silent.

So many accusations of misogyny and yet the fear and loathing of men on these threads is palpable. It seems that for some trans people are an easy (and seemingly acceptable) outlet for that hatred. It’s not trans is it, it’s anyone who isn’t CIS female. To many women you just sound a bit unhinged.

The trans community does not blame women for anything

I sincerely hope and believe that it's only a certain section of activists who are exceptionally fervent in their beliefs and demands.

Do not call us cis. Its offensive. We do not consent to being re defined as a subset of our own sex class

@CASCASCAS I’m really interested to learn more on this. It seems to me that all the tweets on this topic have anger directed at women but not at men. Could you please clarify why that is? Or point me in the direction of anything that shows an ounce of anger to the men responsible for murder / rape / abuse rather that to the likes of JKR who is speaking out for women?

@Burgundy1844 congratulations on fulfilling rule number 9.
I know many mothers worried about what trans ideologists are doing and fighting for, but none who are against men.
Trans ideology is sexist, misogynistic and homophobic. Easy to get on board with, for certain types of people.

Custard I’ve no idea what men know or think and wouldn’t purport to