Emma Watson no longer believes in women

[JGACC]

Emma Watson has now tweeted in support of trans activists. I can't believe it.

that self ID is a straight forward solution.

Yes - it’s not a straightforward or good solution.

Trans not drag.

Dats what I said...

Is it.

Oh hang on I meant drag isnt trans.

I meant: do you also think trans is an act?

That’s an interesting question.

It certainly is.

So she says Trans people are who they say they are
... A small child could destroy that reasoning. In fact, we literally teach small children to be wary of strangers offering candy or puppies BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT BE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE

This is what I find mindboggling. I mean, this kind of reasoning is so simplistic, so juvenile, so bloody dangerous.
When I was a young woman eager for approval and, yes, love, I often fell for young men spinning me lies in order to get into my knickers. I fell for it, for their words, for the act they were putting on for truly selfish reasons. They cared not a whit for me. I was a trusting, innocent young girl who longed for nothing more than to be loved. With age I learned to see through the lies and the acting-nice of men and basically lost my automatic trust -- but now I can ALWAYS spot the phonies. I have an instinct, which is something that really only comes with age and experience. But it's important!

I now understand a lot better why back in the day girls were not allowed to go out unchaperoned with men. It was the older women, whose job is to protect: they KNEW.

So, mindboggling as it is, I can understand why EW is still at the blinded stage of "believing what people say they are". And yes, I can forgive her for believing TWAW is the only kind thing to do and that we must never be mean to TW, we must see their suffering and care for their feelings, because I know it's the ignorance of youth speaking there, a longing to be good and loving. I was like that once; very caring towards men. I get it.

(Those saying she is far too old to still be that silly: I was 38 when I finally woke up, and it was one particularly horrible experience with a two-faced man that was the final straw. After that: no man, until I met my husband. And even since he died: no man, ever again.)

What I cannot understand is her disloyalty to JKR. I might have been young, trusting, and stupid, but I was loyal and trustworthy to a fault and EW's betrayal is something I cannot get my mind around. I would have been eaten up with guilt within the hour and gone grovelling to the person I'd betrayed begging for forgiveness.

It does not speak in their favour that they do not recant. That is not kindness at all.

hoodathunkit:

She is a yoga teacher

She does mindfulness mediation

She has been in therapy following a break up

She has been on a silent meditation retreat lasting several days

I have to take issues with this. THESE are no reason to be woke -- quite the opposite!
It is actually when I started Yoga at the tender age of 19 that I finally began to find a way out, a refuge.
Meditation (I don't know anything about "mindfulness meditation", I think it's just a commercialised fad) authentic meditation, as it is supposed to be taught, would actually wake her up entirely if she did it properly.

The very foundation of the spiritual aspect of Yoga is to abandon fake identities and find an inner strength and balance as well as independence from outer influences.

I was a Yoga teacher right up until my second child was born, when I was 40. It's a fantastic practice and I've said before here, if I were a young mother and my child demonstrated a risk of turning trans, I'd immediately whisk him-her off to an authentic Yoga retreat.
Nothing in my life has kept me so strong and mentally healthy and independent as much as my practice -- over 45 years now.

I'm really sad that young enthusiastic but ignorant people have so tarnished the actual benefits of Yoga so as to relegate it into the realms of woo.

I didn't know EW was into all this, but if it just means her practice is as shallow as it comes.

Emma Watson is abusing her position as UN Women's Ambassador.
That is all I have to say about her.

PS to my post above: gender ideology is in fact the absolute opposite of yogic teaching. Yoga teaches that our true self is neither male not female, that these are just a mental accumulation of learnt tendencies, attributes. So, a non-binary, (or, to put it into yogic terms, a non-dualistic) self stripped of such attributes -- that's the goal.

Both m and f identities have to be completely abandoned accordingly.

Thus it would be utterly counterproductive to actually cling for dear life to a new, opposite, "identity". Utterly insane, in fact! Any Yoga teacher worth his or her salt would tell you that, and teach you how to let go of that "identity".

And at the same time, you learn to deal adequately with actual reality, including your body.

And you certainly don't go around making a show of it, talking about how special and non-binary you are.

This TRA rhetoric and trans ideology is so fucking destructive.

A FB group I am in, that was for people who liked a particular fantasy author, went apocalyptic in the last 2 days. Someone posted about JKR, calling her a terf, and it caused arguments. It was reported.
Admins posted to ask people not to use terf because it's used as a slur.
That thread went up like a fucking rocket. The abusive language was spectacular - but it was all trans and trans-supporters doing the abuse. They then had the gall to say that they "no longer felt safe" - but they didn't give a flying fuck about the WOMEN in the group, many of whom are abuse survivors because a huge percentage of women are anyway, but also many turn to fantasy as an escape from their real life.
So it's apparently ok for women to lose their "safe space" and be shouted at, called terf scum, transphobic, and in need of "education" - but woe betide anyone mentioning that JKR's words weren't actually transphobic - they need to get out or risk being punched/slapped/abused because TRANS matters.

We, as women, are just not fucking shouting loudly enough. The TRAs are shouting, screaming, abusing, threatening (verbally and physically) and they are being heard far more than women who are not doing the same thing.

I feel like EW has led a safe and protected existence. I can’t really relate to her. Wish they had picked a bi-racial actress for Hermione.

Be that as it may; everyone is assuming these actors’ social media comments are written by them when it’s obviously the PR department’s job.

Responding in the interests of the celeb’s brand, which includes large numbers of people and products such as movies relying on his/her/their appeal to a certain demographic for their livelihoods.

Eg: If you watch Carpool Karaoke with Adele, she says she (Adele) doesn’t have the passwords to her own Twitter account in case she posted something after a few drinks. (Love Adele, btw)

We, as women, are just not fucking shouting loudly enough

We don't need to shout loudly though. We know we are speaking the truth. They shout loudly and use threats because the fantasy they have constructed is fragile and is destroyed by facts.

Yes @snowqu33n. Before all this blew up, DR was saying on Desert Island Discs what a safe and protective bubble working on the HP films was. It sounds like the team in charge were really keen to make sure there was proper safeguarding in place and that they actually got to have childhoods. Learning the lessons of previous child stars, I suppose.

It's ironic because i felt really glad when he said that (and still do) because you hear so many horror stories about what can happen to kids (and women) in the entertainment industry. However, we on the outside are painfully aware of the way EW was regarded by the paedophilic contingent of men "out here" from day one. I wonder how much of her "magical thinking" (pardon the pun) might be a way of shielding herself from the true depths to which male people will sink. If I had her money I might try and cocoon myself from that sick reality too.

Responding in the interests of the celeb’s brand, which includes large numbers of people and products such as movies relying on his/her/their appeal to a certain demographic for their livelihoods.

I agree, and also EW and DR are very much trying to promote their brand to a US audience.

However, even if somebody else wrote the tweets/announcements, it's still very odd to approve them, given all the circumstances.

I have to take issues with this. THESE are no reason to be woke -- quite the opposite!
It is actually when I started Yoga at the tender age of 19 that I finally began to find a way out, a refuge.

You may find yoga helful but surely you must be aware of the many yoga cults that abuse women?

Just for a very basic intro into some of the problems you can check this thread

forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,108666,page=1

Meditation (I don't know anything about "mindfulness meditation", I think it's just a commercialised fad) authentic meditation, as it is supposed to be taught, would actually wake her up entirely if she did it properly.

Well that's the claim. "Wake up!". Unfortunately much of the awakenings, activations, downloads etc. seem to leave people in a reverie of feelgood wokeness that adversely affects their abiity to assess risk and take avoidant action.

I do not have a problem with mediation. I meditate every day. I have a problem with the crass appropriation, comercialisation and perversion of mediatation by corporations and cults.

The very foundation of the spiritual aspect of Yoga is to abandon fake identities and find an inner strength and balance as well as independence from outer influences.

Yet is it exactly this promotion of the "authentic" "inner self" that has been appropriated by identity politics and perverted into Orewellian groupthink.

What are the "fake identities"? What is the "authentic self"? Do we have mutiple identities? Personally I believe that all of us have nuanced selves / identities and I find the idea of retaining an "authentic self" and ridding onesself of "inauthentic selves" to be deeply problematic for a range of complex reasons I am busy writing about.

I was a Yoga teacher right up until my second child was born, when I was 40. It's a fantastic practice and I've said before here, if I were a young mother and my child demonstrated a risk of turning trans, I'd immediately whisk him-her off to an authentic Yoga retreat.

Can you provide some examples of "authentic yoga retreats"? Serious question.

Nothing in my life has kept me so strong and mentally healthy and independent as much as my practice -- over 45 years now.

I have no idea about your personal practice. I can believe that it helped you to feel better. Yoga can make people feel really good and "awakened". I have decades of yoga practice myself. The main reason I stopped was the infiltration of yoga circles by misogynist cults, some involved in sex trafficking.

Unfortunately most of the people involved in yoga cults have no idea that they are in a cult until it is too late and it is hard to leave.

Some others know about child sexual abuse and misogyny within their yoga school but just crack on with their activities anyway, as has happened with Yoga Nidra, a trance inducing for of yoga which some proponents refer to a "cunt empowerment yoga" or "womb yoga" but is more widely known as the "yoga of sleep".

This thread is, I think, enlightening
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/yoga/3385527-Yoga-Nidra-I-love-it

The promoters of Yoga Nidra are right now rebranding themselves as activists against sexual abuses within the yoga movement. I have seen this happen many times before with cultic abuses and will be keeping a close eye on their activities.

I'm really sad that young enthusiastic but ignorant people have so tarnished the actual benefits of Yoga so as to relegate it into the realms of woo.

I think you have to ask, what is yoga?

Thre is an ancient tradition of yoga but this is a mile away from the modern postures or "asanas" most of which arose from a fairly recent cross fertilisation of western stretching exercises, (mostly informed by "Primitive Gymnastics" developed by the controversial Danish figure Niels Bukh) with Hindu spiritual practices.

Herein lies the problem. People embrace something generally known as "yoga" but the asanans, the cornerstone of most people's practice, are nothing to do with the ancient practice of yoga.

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The real history and development of what people now call "yoga" is fascinating to anyone interested in astroturfing, entryism and cultural appropriation.

Some yoga ashrams and groups have been accusing westerners of cultual appropriation of yoga, however while there are undoubtably ancient yoga traditions they bear little resembance to what we know of yoga today.

We are in a strange world in which cults routinely appropriate all manner of valid, authentic traditions and pervert them, but they also claim that their own novel, inauthentic practices are ancient and appropriated by others. It is a strange form of cultural appropriation DARVO.

I didn't know EW was into all this, but if it just means her practice is as shallow as it comes.

I would be genuinely intersted by what you would classify as "deep" or "authentic" practice. I really am very genuinely interested.

Do you have any links you could share about the cultish elements of these? I know a few actors, including those who use clowning, and am intrigued.

Pushed for time, but would like to answer your question

Re the clowning, of course just because a person is involved in clowning does not necessarily mean that they are involved in a cult.

The wonderful film Rize showed how a dance form related to a new type of clowning could be liberating for oppressed people and could help to empower them.

Re the performing arts there are many examples I could give.

I am working on a little project about this at the moment and will post a link as soon as I can

Really interesting post, hoodathunkit - stuff I'd never heard before!

Now I have to ask you - in this comment "The real history and development of what people now call "yoga" is fascinating to anyone interested in astroturfing, entryism and cultural appropriation.", do you mean something other than fake grass by astroturfing? Or is it a spectacular typo? Thanks :)

Thanks, hoodathunkit, I can totally imagine acting processes and techniques to be infused with some cultish thinkin, providing opportunities to manipulate very open and imaginative young women and men.

do you mean something other than fake grass by astroturfing? Or is it a spectacular typo?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

:)

I can totally imagine acting processes and techniques to be infused with some cultish thinkin, providing opportunities to manipulate very open and imaginative young women and men.

There are a number of very notorious cults associated with acting and theatre.

For example this flashmob was organised by a notorious Romanian yoga cult that has several theatre groups, a puppet theatre and a history of involvement with pornography

There are also many examples of therapists with an involvement in community / revolutionary theatre going on to become abusive cult leaders Derek Gale is one of the best known

Then there are the cultic elements in dramatherapy

Bit pushed for time but will post more soon :)

Well well! Another new lesson. I hadn't heard of that either! Thank you for the link - of course I could have googled it myself but I just wanted to check first that it wasn't a typo. :)

No problem
Always happy to help if I can and I do make a lot of typos
:)