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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emma Watson no longer believes in women

416 replies

JGACC · 10/06/2020 23:01

Emma Watson has now tweeted in support of trans activists. I can't believe it.

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merrymouse · 11/06/2020 14:34

I'd really question whether people who are so young are the best choice for positions like UN ambassadors.

The problem is UN Women believe this rubbish.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 14:35

I'm betting on Paloma Faith being 'friend of Emma'. Not sure why...but I just have a feeling.

VickyEadieofThigh · 11/06/2020 14:35

I haven't been on here other than to read for quite some time, largely because I allowed myself to get sucked into the toxic morass of Twitter.

So yes, single sex spaces must be preserved, because every predator in the country, whether trans or not, has now seen the loophole. Men commit 98% of all sex crimes. A pattern of behaviour which does not change however you identify.

Correct. It's a loophole which has already resulted in us knowing that we cannot use some single-sex spaces now - those gyms which have surreptitiously (and contrary to the law as it currently stands) adopted "self-id" policies for changing rooms, similarly stores such as M &S and so on.

Almost - if not all - those joining in with the attacks on JKR have (a) not actually read and considered what she's said and (b) think that 'trans' = that tiny number of transsexuals we've always known were around. They have, I'm convinced, no idea that the majority now demanding capitulation and entry to all women's spaces, etc are autogynephiles, with a sizable number of predatory men who've spotted the loophole.

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2020 14:44

I'd really question whether people who are so young are the best choice for positions like UN ambassadors.

They are selected for having the right views not because they have the best creditials on the subject.

The question should be why are we picking celebrities as ambassadors not people with in depth understanding of issues in these fields?

Is it because we have had enough of experts and have a cult of celebrity?

merrymouse · 11/06/2020 14:49

She is a 'Goodwill' Ambassador - her role is to be photographed and make a speech, not decide on policy.

It's still disappointing that she doesn't seem to understand more about her subject, particularly given her level of education.

WellThankyouAJPTaylor · 11/06/2020 14:56

So she says Trans people are who they say they are

What the what

A small child could destroy that reasoning

In fact, we literally teach small children to be wary of strangers offering candy or puppies BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT BE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE

Angry
merrymouse · 11/06/2020 14:56

They have, I'm convinced, no idea that the majority now demanding capitulation and entry to all women's spaces, etc are autogynephiles, with a sizable number of predatory men who've spotted the loophole.

I think its bigger than that. If you accept that spaces are segregated by gender, and that gender can't be questioned, literally any man can gain access to a female space or service for any reason.

M&S have already shown that they aren't prepared to protect single sex spaces, even when there is no question that the man who wants to use the space is trans.

It's not even a question of men lying - the word 'woman' has been redefined to include everyone.

Collidascope · 11/06/2020 15:08

Yes, if you're gender fluid, it stands to reason that you can literally choose which facility to use depending on your mood. No need to commit to life as a woman (whatever the fuck that is) at all.

Dances · 11/06/2020 15:29

Yes but women are not who they say they are, they are what they are told they are: mentruators.

And if they don't accept that, they are a transphobic cunt who needs to suck dick.

This is the voice of Progressivism

Dances · 11/06/2020 15:30

MENSTRUATORS

.....better learn how to spell it, now it's what I have been designated as

Ninkanink · 11/06/2020 15:31

Women are what men say they are. Apparently.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 15:36

Men- stroo-8!
Men-stroo-8!

Anyone else imagining a dalek?

Goosefoot · 11/06/2020 15:36

The problem is UN Women believe this rubbish.

Yes, it was more of a general comment.

I suppose though I can see why there might be certain roles where a younger person, even a teen, might be appropriate. But then, I don't know how significant I think those roles even are.

We seem to expect a lot from young people somehow, some of the wrong sorts of things. Greta T is a good example, she was hailed as almost a sort or oracular figure, and she was such a focus for a few months, but of course she had no real ideas, she tended to simplify what is complex, and created no lasting change.

On social and historical and political issues, my feeling is that it's when people, be they regular people or even academics, are in their 40s, 50s or even older that they start seeing more complex patterns and forces at work, and start having much greater insight into what moves other people and what constrains them, what kinds of unexpected effects can happen. There seems to be a significant leap not only in experience but in the type of complexity people can see.

MaleficentsCrow · 11/06/2020 15:36

So will women's aid now need to change to people who experience domestic violence aid.

Because not all women experience domestic violence, and not all domestic violence is perpetrated by men.

🤦🏻‍♀️ This is the problem with moving the goal posts, when do you stop moving them? Oh yes I know when women are a 3rd class and erased.....

merrymouse · 11/06/2020 15:39

The important thing to remember is that if you have submitted a complaint under section 14a, subsection 52b "menstruators", and you then need to make a submission under section 113.3, paragraph 58 "gestators", your previous submission is void and you need to start again. "Lactators" should not submit any paperwork to this department. There is a separate office.

Menopause

merrymouse · 11/06/2020 15:41

Sorry, bit of a glitch there. The menopause department is being reorganised. There will be an announcement.

madcatladyforever · 11/06/2020 15:44

Unfortunately like so many young women these days she has just been brainwashed. One day they will wake up and realise that all their rights that were fought for hard by my generation have gone.

GivesNoFox · 11/06/2020 15:48

The majority of non-twitter comment sections I've seen regarding Watson, Radcliffe and Redmayne's responses, including the ones for lefty newspapers heavily favour JKR and common sense. Twitter is truly a woke bubble it seems.

PamDenick · 11/06/2020 15:57

Yes, GivesNoFox.

You are right,
Trained journalists have seen through the double speak and for that I thank them.
It just shows the danger of a tweet. Skim read and react. Considered, measured thoughtful responses are few and far between.

GivesNoFox · 11/06/2020 16:10

@PamDenick

Yes, GivesNoFox.

You are right,
Trained journalists have seen through the double speak and for that I thank them.
It just shows the danger of a tweet. Skim read and react. Considered, measured thoughtful responses are few and far between.

True, however not all journalists I'm afraid, a lot of them are still caught up in the woke. Papers like the independent are running a anti-JKR bias in their reporting, however their idea of journalism and newsworthy stories are so often ridiculous that I have a hard time often seeing them as an serious newspaper. For example, Watson, Radcliffe and Redmayne's responses were all posted under a 'Breaking news' tag on their social media. Hmm As if their response is somehow so world changing and of the utmost importance that it need to garner maximum attention.😅

Thankfully, like I said prviously, the majority of the comments were rightfully taking the piss out of both the articles and the actors featured while supporting JKR.Grin

The majority of the public who live in the real world and have ACTUAL problems to deal with (Pandemic related and otherwise) have no time or patience for this ideology shit.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 16:48

Ive lost the 'grown ups have spoken' thread... another one to add:

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 16:48

oops:

Yasmin alibhai-brown
@y_alibhai
#standwithjkrowling back off you hyenas. Misogyny dressed up as righteousness stinks. No Body Shop products henceforth for me either.

MrGHardy · 11/06/2020 17:01

"The personal attacks on her, leave it out please.

She is a young-ish woman, who is allowed to make mistakes like everyone else.

She is working in an industry that is white male dominated and no doubt, has to make compromises on that basis.
I do. I don't really dicuss this in real life, as it may have consequences for my work.

No cause is helped, by diminishing yourself to the level of the opposition. If they go low we go high."

Emma Watson is rich enough never to work again. She is a UN Women Ambassador.

If she wanted she could actually do something, but she chooses to go for woke points and you defend that?

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 17:04

Hew whole twitter account seems to be her sooking up to groups of which she is not a member if to in some way make her look like a 'good person'.

andyoldlabour · 11/06/2020 17:18

WellThankyouAJPTaylor

"In fact, we literally teach small children to be wary of strangers offering candy or puppies BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT BE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE"

And that is exactly why this situation is so dangerous, that one tiny minority group seems to be excepted from all due diligence and safeguarding concerns.
I call it - the Aimee Challenor effect.