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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emma Watson no longer believes in women

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JGACC · 10/06/2020 23:01

Emma Watson has now tweeted in support of trans activists. I can't believe it.

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Dances · 11/06/2020 17:23

Josie Long acting all but hurt because Glinner has spotted her tweeting TRA bollocks. Talking about violence at home as a child. Yes me too Josie like many others. There's a good reason to keep Rape crisis centres and DV refuges female only. By all means go help set up Male and/or trans ones too. Not throw abused women under the bus.

merrymouse · 11/06/2020 17:26

"In fact, we literally teach small children to be wary of strangers offering candy or puppies BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT BE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE"

These days we are more likely to say that Hufflepufflover05 might not be who they say they are.

Or at least we were - according to current orthodoxy is is still OK to suggest that someone you meet on line might not be another teenage girl?

Ninkanink · 11/06/2020 17:28

Didn’t the NSPCC have some rather interesting (read: disturbing) opinions on online safeguarding of children/parental controls? Sorry my memory fails me...anyone care to fill me in on the details again...?

OvaHere · 11/06/2020 17:29

@Lordfrontpaw

Hew whole twitter account seems to be her sooking up to groups of which she is not a member if to in some way make her look like a 'good person'.
There's quite a bit of evidence that child actors, especially those who receive a huge dose of fame often struggle with various issues in adulthood.

Perhaps there's a sense of kinship with people who have identity issues coupled with learned crowd pleasing behaviours.

I'm just surmising here because I don't know the HP kids personally but the life of a famous child actor is probably not one grounded in everyday reality.

Dances · 11/06/2020 17:30

She is retweeting that Andrew Carter idiot. Remember this one, him trying to bluff Rhona Hotchkiss, ex Prison Governor of Cortonvale, Scotland's only female prison?

mobile.twitter.com/coollist/status/1271103151190487042/photo/1

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 17:37

But that was really really funny and always worth a retweet.

Goosefoot · 11/06/2020 17:40

Hew whole twitter account seems to be her sooking up to groups of which she is not a member if to in some way make her look like a 'good person'.

I think a lot of people with her background, who have a social conscience at all, have been really impressed with the idea that they need to use their public role for the good of those who are less fortunate. That's the only way they can make up for their own good fortune and privilege.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 17:44

By being insufferably right on with regards to just the causes du jour? Not thinking for herself as to which causes she deeply cares about - she is merely playing 'cause top trumps' .

she reminds me of the supermodels who posed naked for PETA ('I'd rather go naked than wear fur') then were next seen sashaying down the catwalk in furs. These were rich women who could afford to take a stand and choose alternative jobs. The words were just put ino their mouths (and I assume they got paid for it).

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 11/06/2020 17:44

@MrGHardy if you read what I said fully, you will see that I did not defend what she said.

What I did say was, that in common with everyone else on this thread, she is allowed to make mistakes even as a rich UN Ambassador.

I feel that she has embarrassed herself with her remarks, but I will continue to say that it is not OK for anyone on this thread to attack her directly.

Her looks have been commented on, her "stupidity" and someone said "eat sh*t"."

I will defend anyone against that type of personal abuse.

Attack the error not the person.

merrymouse · 11/06/2020 17:48

This is a strange thing for Vogue to share:

www.vogue.co.uk/news/article/emma-watson-books-people-of-colour?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1591359725

"The 11 Books Emma Watson Is Reading As Part Of Her Commitment To Anti-Racism & Self-Education"

Couldn't they find somebody better to quote on racism?

To be fair, I think this is Vogue doing lazy "somebody tweeted something" journalism.

But its still very odd and EW has retweeted it.

RuffleCrow · 11/06/2020 18:02

@StrangeLookingParasite they're all just thrilled to have found a way to piss off a sort of proxy distant-and benevolent mother figure imo. She created their world, now they get to trash it. They need to grow the fuck up. They're all over 30 ffs.

DandyMandy · 11/06/2020 18:03

These people throwing the woman who gave them a career under the bus make me sick. All about the bandwagon. According to their logic, I could wake up tomorrow morning and say I'm a man. I won't make any effort to look male or have a penis, but I can still identify that way right?? Maybe then I'd be paid fairly, able to walk alone at night without the fear of being raped or killed and revel in my male privilege.

But oh no, I can't do that because maleness is never up for grabs. Man/maleness is never changed and is allowed to stay the same, but femaleness is always up for the taking apparently.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 18:09

I guess you can disagree with someone who has given you your career - but their reasons are just so pathetic, spineless, heartless and weasely.

hypernormal · 11/06/2020 18:11

I feel that she has embarrassed herself with her remarks, but I will continue to say that it is not OK for anyone on this thread to attack her directly.
I do understand it's important to maintain the moral high ground, but this is a forum. I'm not releasing a public statement insulting Emma Watson, this is an outpouring of anger. Emma Watson is a very privileged woman with a huge platform, particularly on women's issues. She has stabbed in the back the woman who gave her all of her privilege, when that woman has written a heartfelt plea for understanding, and opened up about the domestic and sexual abuse she has suffered. Emma Watson's response is 'fuck her, fuck all domestic abuse victims, fuck raped women, fuck homeless women, fuck disabled and elderly women in need of care, fuck lesbians, 'cos I need to make sure Emma Watson stays popular'. She is beneath contempt. I will not make any excuses for her with all her expensive education and her 29 million reach Twitter megaphone to broadcast her views to. Where is her generosity to her fellow women, and the woman who made her career?

WarmestRegards · 11/06/2020 18:15

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RuffleCrow · 11/06/2020 18:15

I don't think any of us would mind them disagreeing with her if it wasn't so painfully obvious they were lying through their teeth.

WomaninBoots · 11/06/2020 18:16

I think I might identify as a man so that my ovaries stop attacking me every month...

Oh, does it not work like that?

BatShite · 11/06/2020 18:16

Maybe then I'd be paid fairly, able to walk alone at night without the fear of being raped or killed and revel in my male privilege.

If only it worked, to simply identify and become. Sexism would be a thing of the past for sure. As would every other issue, as you could simply identify out of it.

My main issue with all these replies is that not one of them has acknowledged the fucking vile constant misogynistic abuse JK Rowling is getting nor condemned it at all. Its possible to say you disagree with her, but also to say you disagree with those abusing and threatening her. But any criticism at all is taken as transphobia. So saying you disagree with the abuse, will be you being a bigot. Sorry state of affairs.

Goosefoot · 11/06/2020 18:26

Yeah, I think so too, BatShite. They are entitled to their opinions, and it's a feature of that generation that they seem to feel required to make these social media pronouncements. But they really ought to have said something about the types of things people have said.

Maybe they assume that it's just obvious to everyone that they wouldn't support death threats or rape threats.

Dances · 11/06/2020 18:33

I'm a victim of abuse, violence, sexual assault. Emma Watson has told me that men who identify as women are more important than me and that their rights are more important than mine. I think I'm allowed to challenge that.

She has been utterly treacherous to J K Rowling, who I greatly admire.

I'm certainly going to challenge her being called a feminist. She is the ultimate Cool Girl now.

That's not an 'attack'.

DandyMandy · 11/06/2020 18:43

@BatShite

Maybe then I'd be paid fairly, able to walk alone at night without the fear of being raped or killed and revel in my male privilege.

If only it worked, to simply identify and become. Sexism would be a thing of the past for sure. As would every other issue, as you could simply identify out of it.

My main issue with all these replies is that not one of them has acknowledged the fucking vile constant misogynistic abuse JK Rowling is getting nor condemned it at all. Its possible to say you disagree with her, but also to say you disagree with those abusing and threatening her. But any criticism at all is taken as transphobia. So saying you disagree with the abuse, will be you being a bigot. Sorry state of affairs.

You're exactly right. I'm actually scared for JK now. Sending death and rape threats is a very male thing to, but I guess it's okay because they identify as women? Utterly unbelievable. These people should be named and shamed and thrown in the slammer (male prison) where they belong.
Awning10 · 11/06/2020 18:54

Other actors also on board now...

www.newsweek.com/harry-potter-stars-jk-rowling-transphobia-emma-watson-daniel-radcliffe-1510237?utm_source=pushnami&utm_medium=Push_Notifications&utm_campaign=automatic

DS at London drama school and it's 100% no debate.

Dances · 11/06/2020 18:57

Josie Long, retweeting that Carter prick slagging JK off saying she is playing the victim. Glinner pulls her up on it, she tells everyone she too has been a vi Tim of violence and therefore aglinner is the nd he's the bully. Talcum in the scene now. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

Dances · 11/06/2020 19:00

Typo hell but you get the gist. J K is manipulative for telling people she is a victim of abuse. Long is called out in it by Glinner, Long says she has had a history of family violence, and behold, Glinner is the bully

WTF.?

Enderthedragon · 11/06/2020 19:13

Evanna Lynch is the only one who wrote something vaguely supporting JKR and she got shit for it. There were some rather thinly veiled threats eg.

Your 'I support trans people but' is duly noted