Emma Watson no longer believes in women

[JGACC]

Emma Watson has now tweeted in support of trans activists. I can't believe it.

I'm just having a rant and don't mean to go low, but as a woman who has lived with domestic violence, grown up poor, had to use a homeless shelter and been subjected to sexual assault, to have a rich and privileged woman with a platform have such a 'let them eat cake' attitude makes me feel genuinely sick. Young women are indeed judged by many as a group as being naive and dim, as a young woman I had to fight countless times to deal with such prejudice and make my voice heard, and she is doing nothing to help redress that with her vacuous virtue signalling and failure to address anything Rowling said. She is a women's ambassador FFS. Utter, utter shame on her.

Bonnie Wright, who played Ginny, has also tweeted about how transwomen are women, but got grief because she wrote 'transwomen' not 'trans women'. Still can't get it right Bonnie can ya?

I also don't think we should be excusing her lack of being thorough in fact gathering and looking at different points of view. As a graduate of Brown University, and as a UN Women's ambassador, I see very little excuse for her vacuousness, we're not talking about the average teenage girl here, but a well-educated woman in a position of massive influence when it comes to women's rights.

Yes, all the eager young actresses ready to stick the knife into JKR and receive their protective cover by saying the mantra are about to discover that this particular cult is rather exacting about compliance to the codes.

And again she tweets about transwomen, not transmen.

Part of the thing about Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe in this debate is how they are seen as teenagers even though they are both now in their 30s. They are not regarded as the adults they are and they are used to appeal to a teenage audience.

This is relevant.

Meanwhile JKR is framed as a stupid old woman who is stupid, uneducated and knows nothing about life.

This is also relevant.

As is the background of both JKR and Radcliffe and Watson and how two of the three have always been extremely privileged whereas one has had to fight and work for theirs.

So who people are and why they say different things has to be part of the conversation, because the debate is a reflection about who is 'allowed' to speak and who is silenced (and who doesn't even have a platform).

If all supporters of Trans are so supportive, how come when they wish to raise a family then they choose the oppersite sex to become the parent.
Be they in a same sex relationship or have a Trans partner to create the child a woman's body is needed and a male to provide the sperm.
Yet we have to now hide this view because it is upsetting for some.

And again she tweets about transwomen, not transmen.

So telling, isn't it? A huge chunk of JK's piece was about the 4400% increase in girls wanting to transition. She mentioned autism and regret after transition. No one gives a shit about that though. I wonder why.

So telling, isn't it? A huge chunk of JK's piece was about the 4400% increase in girls wanting to transition. She mentioned autism and regret after transition. No one gives a shit about that though. I wonder why.

Indeed.

Always look for the silence and ask why there is silence where there should be comment. It often reveals more than what is said.

And that's something a UN ambassador for women should be shit hit on. The silences and the unspoken. Not bandwagon jumping.

*shit hot.

Whats the crack with all the repliers waffling on about transwomen being women? IF ANYTHING, JK Rowlings tweet was about transmen. It should be transmen who are the focus of this.

This story has a hell of a reach, MIL who is normally ignorant on stuff like this has just appeared and asked if I knew what was going on with JK Rowling, she read it in the sun!

30 year olds have been seen as closer to teens for a long time. Many groups that have a youth wing include people up to 30. There has been an upward creep to teenager-hood overall, maybe related to delayed parenthood, or longer educational periods. And we generally fetishise the young and their opinions, look at Brexit. There isn't a lot of social pressure to prompt younger people to look with respect at the ideas of their elders.

University education seems in many cases to make people less likely to question gender ideology. Sadly.

I'd really question whether people who are so young are the best choice for positions like UN ambassadors.

I'm just having a rant and don't mean to go low, but as a woman who has lived with domestic violence, grown up poor, had to use a homeless shelter and been subjected to sexual assault, to have a rich and privileged woman with a platform have such a 'let them eat cake' attitude makes me feel genuinely sick. Young women are indeed judged by many as a group as being naive and dim, as a young woman I had to fight countless times to deal with such prejudice and make my voice heard, and she is doing nothing to help redress that with her vacuous virtue signalling and failure to address anything Rowling said. She is a women's ambassador FFS. Utter, utter shame on her.

You're not going low at all. I have no been subjected to DV or had to use a refuge and I feel your anger.

I do feel slightly sorry for EW, she wants to try and please everyone and she knows she has got loads of transgender followers who will turn their vitriol on to her the second she doesn't capitulate. She knows it, she has seen it happen with Joanne. You can see it in that video with Paris, there are no arguments there at all, its just all smiling sweetly and talking about how awful it is to exclude anyone at all.

She thinks that if she is just 'kind' to men then everything will just solve itself and we will all hold hands and sing, and Joanne will go round to Paris's for dinner and they'll get pissed on Prosecco and they'll laugh and talk about sex and exchange hilarious stories of being catcalled in the street and Joanne will tell Paris how 'fire' she looks in that dress and everyone can be included in everything.

Probably she's been very sheltered in many ways.

I also think she works in a very precarious industry where rule no. 1. for women is don't be difficult.

If you start talking about structural inequalities that only face women, you are giving people reasons to employ somebody else.

Much easier to pretend they don't exist.

Josie fucking Long is at it now

Fuck sake.

@RedToothBrush

And that's something a UN ambassador for women should be shit hit on. The silences and the unspoken. Not bandwagon jumping.

Well. Assuming they know whats what.

People coming out supporting JK include Muriel Grey, David Baddiel, Alison Moyet, Jennifer Saunders...

Muriel Gray - thank the loving god.

Aren't they all...(hushed) older people (my gen)?

I also don't think we should be excusing her lack of being thorough in fact gathering and looking at different points of view.

I think this is sort of the crux of it. In my experience, people who are broadly liberal etc, support this idea of TWAW because they want to be kind. And they look at issues like Karen White as being aberrations - "we shouldn't punish all TW for the faults of a few."

But because they don't do the research and listen to what's happening, they are genuinely clueless about the reality of male violence. Often these people are, sadly, the same ones who really only feel for a female rape victim if she's attacked in broad daylight, while wearing coveralls - because whether they realise it or not, other rapes they'll blame on the women themselves. They don't want to believe that the men they know and love could be these "bad guys".

They don't see the micro aggressions.

And for young women (and I include EW here) they are either woefully ignorant of, or in complete denial about, the reality of how the world is still massively skewed towards men. All those young women who don't think feminism is needed anymore because "equal pay" or whatever. But for some reason they can't see that the lack of female leadership in business and politics might have something to do with feminism. The same young women who say things like, "of course America should have a female president but not Hillary Clinton" but are completely oblivious to how her sex played against her.

[obviously, it's not just young women, but we're talking about EW so....]

I (reluctantly) voted Labour last December, and yet my comfort here is that Liz Truss seems to get it, and that The Times comments and The Daily Mail comments are overwhelmingly with JK. People saying they don't normally agree with her, but on this they do. Twitter might be vocal and the hundreds of thousands of "likes" for TWAW posts might be dispiriting, but we have to remember that a lot of Twitter is American, and they're got their whole religious evangelicalism thing going on with this issue.
I think the British public however largely isn't on board with this stuff.

Josie Long has been TWAW for ages.

@Goosefoot

I'd really question whether people who are so young are the best choice for positions like UN ambassadors.

Quite. How can someone be both 'too young to understand' and mature and knowledgeable enough to take on such a role?

Sorry, just to continue this rant, it's like all those women who come on here when discussing misogyny to say, "well, I work in a male dominated environment and I'm a team leader so really, people are just exaggerating the issue." or even go further and suggest that OTHER women aren't team leaders because they don't know how to do it right. And you can point out the deep seated inequalities until you're blue in the face and they'll just keep on saying, "no , no, it's not misogyny leading to fewer women in leadership positions/the gender pay gap/ women generally being employed in lower paid roles..."

Makes me so angry.