Young women don't know what a woman is

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This is absolutely staggering.

The latest poll commissioned by Wings over Scotland on the subject of self-ID, finds that all demographics in their majority believe a woman is an adult human female.

Except young women.

"The 16-34 female demographic actually voted by a narrow six-point majority that a person’s sex has absolutely nothing to do with biology. Even the next-closest group (young men) was a staggering FORTY points adrift from that view (net -34), and middle-aged women were close behind them at a net -36. Among women over 55 the margin against self-ID was a crushing 62 points (over 4:1 against), with older men at a breathtaking 10:1."

wingsoverscotland.com/abolishing-women/

is it shoes? or hair?

Maybe they know a XY person in their book group / office who is perfectly lovely and therefore all women and girls must give up their sex based rights.

They tell me I'm being sexist when I say men, as a class, are bigger and stronger than women.

Can they just not look around the room and see it, self-evident, in front of them?

What is going on?!!?

but then how would you explain the middle-aged women like marfisa?

Marfisa thinks that being a woman is not related to biology, so I have no idea what sex marfisa is. And that's by taking what they say on the internet literally.

What's shocking is that anyone answers that they think a woman is "anyone who says they are one". It's bollocks and they know it.

As Wings' poll shows, though, when given specific examples (bepenised people allowed in changing rooms, Freddy McConnell registered as mother or father) young women know very well what a woman is (and isn't).

The first question is the theoretical TWAW slogan, which apparently sounds appealing and of-the-moment.

Subsequent questions illustrate the actual consequences of applying the TWAW slogan in real life.

The fear must be immense. Many of us are cautious about our actions, always keeping an eye on our safety, on and off line. Imagine being a teenager / young person and knowing that Stonewall, the CPS or countless very powerful trans groups / individuals could get you hounded off social media, make your life in a school or university a nightmare. And we know that until recently universities have been very quick to take the Stonewall shilling while abandoning staff and students to the hate mobs:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6996a770-8f9f-11e9-9b18-a1967b748a67?shareToken=f8cfc2f61fa8fcea54f92068cf4a382b

I wonder how many, if any, of those young women have children. Experiencing something that only women can do tends to show up the stark differences in men and women.

I think as children we don’t see it - I’m always telling my teenage daughter that one day her younger brother will be bigger and stronger than her and will take revenge on her for all the times she’s overpowered him in their play fighting. It’s hard for her to believe. It takes a while to realise how different men are in terms of strength.

Then we go through a period of denying it because we don’t want differences to be highlighted - it seems to devalue women because we are less strong and less fast. The areas where we are stronger and fitter for the world (inc surviving a virus as it turns out) are harder to see at that age. And at 19 you don’t value the idea of being the human that can bring life to the world. And you don’t value the idea of being an 80 year old woman with all the wisdom of age. And it seems rude to mention that all the men will be dead by then.

Plus the disadvantages of the female sex haven’t fully kicked in yet - female biology, sexism, maternity, menopause. Maybe they haven’t even gone through every woman’s true rite of passage yet - sexual assault by a man. That’s when you really see how it works.

By 40 you’ve dealt with all of that and more. They’ll get there.

And they’ll get there quicker if we can get Stonewall out of the classroom. We’re getting there.

Lucky I wasn’t asking the questions on that survey.

I'm in that age category. Of all the other women my age I know, I can't think of any who would pick the un-woke option in this survey. I would guess that many think it but would not be able to say it for fear of reprisals. I know many woke and misogynistic men my age who would verbally attack them forcefully for disagreeing with the narrative.

Did that category include all the interesting people who like to identify as 'girls', I wonder?

It's sad. As others have said, it isn't that they don't know. It's that they're afraid to speak the truth.

Well, I'm a middle-aged woman myself, but bravo to young women I say. I agree with them

What exactly do you agree with @marfisa? That you can change sex? Because, you know you can’t. You can identify as whatever gender you want, but not your natal sex. That doesn’t change, science knows it.

You just have to ask - why are baby girls aborted/murdered on the basis of their sex on some cultures?

Why are little girls married off at puberty in some countries?

Why are little girls genitally mutilated?

Why are young women - and girls - sold/snatched into prostitution?

Does this happen as a matter of course to male babies/children/young adults?

If parents could just say/tell themselves that these females were males and save them, or little girls declare themselves boys and save themselves, why the hell wouldn’t they?

It takes a while to realise how different men are in terms of strength.
I agree. As a child I kicked hard against the idea that girls were smaller and weaker because boys were roughly the same size as me and I could fight them. I idolised Emma Peel and totally expected to grow up like her.

My wake up call came when I was 18 but I think a lot of young people now are sheltered from reality for longer.

I also think 16-34 is a wide age range and I'd be very interested in, say the under and over 25 numbers.

@Michelleoftheresistance it's patronising and un-feminist to say that young women are controlled and parroting because they have a different opinion than you.

Almost as though they can't possibly have their own reasons and beliefs because they're just such young little airheads.

Just popping back in to check whether the thread is an echo chamber.

Yep, echo chamber.

Well, if you wont actually engage in any form of debate or answer questions then that tends to happen marfisa 🤷‍♀️

It is not being in an echo chamber to recognise reality.

To separate women from biological reality is delusional. People might have their reasons for going along with that but it's delusional all the same.

Thank you, CorianderLord.

marfisa: i cant substantiate my opinion in any way so im just gonna pretend its you who are at fault.

Well, I'm a middle-aged woman myself, but bravo to young women I say.

That is some vile misgendering going on there from marfisa. The young women have identified as such yet you use male-gendered words.

What's that saying "so long as priests, pornographers and politicians know what a woman is, then I do too".

@Michelleoftheresistance it's patronising and un-feminist to say that young women are controlled and parroting because they have a different opinion than you.

No, it's just true.

Well, I'm a middle-aged woman myself

How do you know?

Brilliant. Sums it all up in four words