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A few questions for feminists

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ConservativeV8 · 19/03/2020 18:58

  1. Why is feminism so small in number? They get plenty of airtime but it isn't catching on. Women know about it so why no support?
  1. Feminists want equality of opportunity and equality of outcome but how can you have both when it's impossible? You want to give women choice, but then want exactly 50% of men and women in each industry. This can only be achieved by forcing women (and men) to do jobs they don't want to or choose to do. Explain?
  1. Why do you think the earnings difference is due to gender when time and time again it has been shown it has nothing or very little to do with it. Why feminists not take into account the 40 or so factors which affect earnings, such as men are more likely to work longer hours, do more overtime, take less holidays, work more dangerous jobs, willing to relocate, willing to commute further, etc etc?

Please discuss.

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CardsforKittens · 20/03/2020 14:30

Ha ha! I saw that before it was deleted. Of course! Women could be men’s property. Men could then give their daughters to their friends, or the sons of their friends, and we’d have a peaceful and harmonious society, free of war and aggression. It would be utopia. Why has no one in history ever thought to try this?

TinselAngel · 20/03/2020 15:59

Controversial opinion: I don't really see the point of chutney.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 20/03/2020 16:01

Chutney doesn't have to have a point. That's why its chutney.

#BastardizeAFilmQuote

PertEllaTitsahoy · 20/03/2020 16:21

What's the difference between chutney and relish?

TinselAngel · 20/03/2020 16:51

I can tolerate piccalilli.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 20/03/2020 17:02

Tolerate? Away with your Chutneyphobia, acceptance not toleration.

Slimy, tangy condiments deserve better than toleration.

TinselAngel · 20/03/2020 17:44

Literal violence.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 20/03/2020 18:06

Visual violence

A few questions for feminists
TinselAngel · 20/03/2020 18:43

Aural violence

A few questions for feminists
ConservativeC7 · 20/03/2020 18:52

I don't understand why you keep trying to silence me and block me and have this discussion without me. Women agree with me, not you, that is why every survey majority of women say they are not feminists.

No one is answering my excellent questions. "Feminism is low in number because it has a bad reputation", so what are you saying 90% of women are stupid, that they don't understand feminism? Think again. Some of the most well educated academic women simply do not agree with feminism, they think it is crap - why do you think that is?

Remember in 2017 women like you called for a review on equal pay? All companies had to submit their salaries and they did. What happened after that? Nothing, well in fact more men got pay rises after that because it was found that it was men being underpaid for the amount of work they have been doing. Please discuss and analyse, in your own words.

And yes restaurants and clubs closing is a sad day but what can we do. As I said before I miss the admin girls, one of them does my tie up for me in the mornings, I get my drinks bought to me, my plates taken to the dishwasher - all out of kindness nothing to do sexism. I also buy them gifts and take them out for lunches every now and then in my powerful car. I miss the lads in the office too, we have a work hard play hard mentality, year end is a tough and demanding time and fast approaching. But it is all for the greater good.

isabellerossignol · 20/03/2020 18:53

women like you

Who? Me? How do you know who I am or what I think?

ScapaFlo · 20/03/2020 18:55

Yeah right I believe every word 🙄

isabellerossignol · 20/03/2020 18:56

Your last paragraph is so funny that I actually laughed out loud. And I very rarely laugh our loud. So thanks, that's been fun on a dismal day.

TinselAngel · 20/03/2020 18:58

Please discuss and analyse, in your own words.

Is there a prize for the best essay or just a paternal pat on the head?

ConservativeC7 · 20/03/2020 18:58

Well it was feminists (like you) that demanded the pay review. And look what happened.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bbc-pay-review-will-give-men-more-rises-than-women-plsgjpf6z

Be careful what you wish for and the truth always prevails - I always say. There was nothing unfair, its just a very very very small amount of women creating a bit of a disturbance, and the facts, findings and results conclusively prove this.

Why talk about food, when this discussion is a discussion on the excellent points I'm raising. I'm not here to hurt anyone (although look at your language and my treatment here, says a lot about you), but this is a discussion.

People, women in the real world agree with me, not you. I have given you an opportunity to discuss with me - a person from the real world, in a tough and demanding workplace.

Joisanofthedales · 20/03/2020 19:02

This guy is delusional. Yes of course we believe all the women fawn on you and your powerful car. Every MRAs wet dream. Soooooo sad.
I really hope you mum finds out what you do in your basement and tells you off. No more PlayStation for you for a month.
As to bear or snake I'm claustrophobia so bear all the way.

Justhadathought · 20/03/2020 19:02

I've perfected the best ever tomato sauce ( for pasta, of course...)...I'm going to serve it every night - here in the real world. Honestly, it is the best....

isabellerossignol · 20/03/2020 19:03

So, you have clear evidence that 90% of women think that they should be paid less than men for doing equal work. And that they should have less rights than men when it comes to, say, employment, property, access to healthcare, access to justice.

Why don't you share it?

ConservativeC7 · 20/03/2020 19:03

I support women in every way, I am a STEM graduate and I studied with some of the brightest girls I had ever met. I had many female lecturers who I greatly admire.

So why is it that feminists, like you, think there has to be equal numbers in each industry. Do you really expect there to be 50% men and women in primary education in the future? When biological reviews say this cannot happen unless it is enforced.

On the other side, you can't expect equal numbers of men and women in top CEO positions. Look at the Cathy Newman interview I linked, it is so well and clearly explained.

Feminists think sexism is the only cause of pay difference. Whilst every academic, social, factual review has said there many many many factors which contribute to this. Why does the feminists not acknowledge? Look at this thread, turning a blind eye to the truths I am raising and talking about food.

Please discuss.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 20/03/2020 19:04

I don't understand - ConservativeC7

Wisdom for the ages.

Justhadathought · 20/03/2020 19:04

There was nothing unfair, its just a very very very small amount of women creating a bit of a disturbance

If you're going to create a disturbance, the only way is to do it is BIG.

isabellerossignol · 20/03/2020 19:05

OP maybe has some of those photos of fast cars on his bedroom wall, with a lady in a bikini reclining on it . If his mum allows him of course.

ConservativeC7 · 20/03/2020 19:07

I was about to reveal the model of my car, but I though in case I can be identified. Feminism isn't popular in the real world, but I don't want this kind of disruption attached to my professional setting - linked in etc.

I worked hard to drive the car I drive (in fact most insurance companies refuse to insure me), but that is what I like about the capitalist economy we live in, a person is allowed to choose and chase their dreams as they desire. But then I'm not the only one at my workplace with this type of car, so it's kind of common with the senior staff.

This is more an opportunity for you, to explain yourselves.

ScapaFlo · 20/03/2020 19:09

Foxtrot Romeo Oscar, Whisky.

isabellerossignol · 20/03/2020 19:10

Why the hell would anyone care about your car? You're hilarious. If you're hanging round with the sort of vacuous dimwits who are impressed by the car a man drives no wonder you're getting skewed views on women. When you 'pay' women for their company, they tell you what you want to hear. That's capitalism. They don't mean it sweetie, they laugh at you behind your back.