Billy Bragg

[Cwenthryth]

Yes, really. He retweeted Zoe Williams article as a ‘powerful defense (sic) of trans rights’ and has gone on in replies to demonstrate he has zero understanding of what the issues are here. Keeps complaining about ‘negative stereotypes’. He’s stuck way back in ‘be kind, men are nasty to transsexuals in prison so let anyone self-identify into women’s prison’.

Many women & some men well on the way to ratio-ing him, but will he listen?

twitter.com/billybragg/status/1237489351535271938?s=21

But how can that be? There are only ten of us here, with all our sock puppets. Surely any pile on we instigate would be like being pelted by popcorn, one kernel at a time? (I mean obviously, man says dumbfuck thing on twitter and gets lots of women objecting, isn't an unfair thing to the man, but y'know, facts 'n' stuff)

I'm still humming that footie chant.

Ha thanks for the Twitter link - which led me to ‘Mother Christmas’ saying they’d not seen the proof that 97% of sex offences are committed by men, and then further down, ‘Imagine the abuse of transwomen in a male toilet’.

Yes, IMAGINE the abuse! They don’t want to go to their own toilet because of violence. Wonder why WE don’t want men in OUR toilets

Well Helen Mimmymum Mermaids (hi sweetie!! 👋🏻) says it’s all our fault people are being mean to Billy because I posted this thread here.

Meh, she's always doing that. Whenever people challenge a tweet and there is a thread about it on here, it's always the fault of Mumsnetters for causing a pile on. Never that people might want to actually challenge the tweet off their own back because they think its horseshit.

Hi Helen 🙄

I hope all sockpuppets are washing hands thoroughly between usernames.

😂😂

mobile.twitter.com/billybragg/status/1237823776408166404

Oh my, we really are Other Bucket Humans. Those who men like Billy think are not in the men class, should be put in the 'Other Bucket' with the other non men (formally known as women)

If labour decreed you pain your bum blue on a Monday he’d be there with woad (while the wokebros pondered the Celtic cultural appropriation hierarchy of victimism).

PMSL at this

Lols at billy Bragg trolling twitter. He’s loving the attention. What an arse

Billy's at it again telling people showing evidence of sporting comparisons that it's all in bad faith and there must be a way. He's a true believer and nothing is going to shake his faith in men. Awful

Billy says:

"Because the arguments are made in bad faith. Take this one. "A man is stronger than a woman. End of. I win." No one is arguing with that fact. But it does not mean that it is impossible to come up with a means to ensure athletes compete on a level playing field"

Thing is Billy we already have a level playing field. It's called sex segregation.

If Billy is so desperate for TW to be able to compete, then why not start looking for a way for them to compete fairly in their sex class? Instead of expecting women to budge up.

This is the same mentality that leads to women's toilets being made unisex while the men's stays men only.

Quite. His starting point is 'Some men want this, how can they be accommodated?'

Not 'Women need this provision to be able to compete fairly'.

My friend and I have 12 sweets. We divide them fairly, 6 each. Then I demand all her sweets. She refuses. We then compromise so I only get 3 of her sweets. That’s fair, isn’t it?

women aren’t emotional support animals for confused men

As an aside, I wonder if he has seen Made In Dagenham. Or Suffragette.

Billy Bragg has always been a twat.

According to him, equality means same provision apparently. He doesn’t seem to get that same provision actively disadvantages some groups in specific circumstances - women and girls, people who are disabled etc, so separate provision is requested legitimate to ensure equality which he pretends he wants.

Why are so many people -particularly on the left of this -such utter tools.

Well, I'd love to air my views on Twitter but ….. I've been banned for refusing to accept that transwomen are women.

I was invited to appeal. I did. Within 15 seconds - that's mighty quick, Twitter - I got a verdict saying: "No, we're right". I was invited to remove the 'offending' Tweet, after which they confirmed I could continue to use their platform.

Bollocks to them. Twitter is a cesspit of misogyny, orchestrated by men using trans rights as a smokescreen.

For those of you on there, keep up the fight. My Twitter battle may be over but my war on this shit most definitely continues.

The utter nubbin is now saying that the fact that boys can beat grown women is 'not the slam dunk you think it is'.

He's a sexist, arrogant, fool.

He's a complete bellend

Has he a wife, daughters, mum, aunties? So men not speak to the women in they lives before coming out with this cobblers?

He just sums up the attitude of lefty men to women. There used to be a saying that under capitalism women are private property, under socialism women will be owned in common. I thought that was a slur against the left, obviously under socialism women will be free and have full human status. Now I see these lefty men giving our rights away wholesale and I realise they really do think they own us. They've always thought they'd have a revolution for the men, but after the wealth was redistributed, relations between men and women would be the same. Now they are sharing out all the rights we've painfully fought for, our bodies and our identity, as if it was all their property.

We are a commodity - have the babies and pull the plough.

I saw a comment on Twitter that told Billy he was advocating for 'men's rights',it's a good point.

So are we having Self-ID or aren't we?

Will the self-IDing women have to run with lead-weighted handicap boobs? Is that "the way" we can find?

@Mockerswithknockers

Women above a certain age will remember the Krypton Factor staggered start which accounted for sex and age.

I’d love to see that... certain people remaining on the starting line for an additional 10-15% of the likely time to completion or being forced to carry an extra 10-15% in weights.

Now I see these lefty men giving our rights away wholesale and I realise they really do think they own us.

Aided and abetted by lefty women, that's the tragedy, women who have benefited from years of feminist battles now actively throwing women under the bus for the sake of Trans Liberation.