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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Billy Bragg

220 replies

Cwenthryth · 11/03/2020 07:43

Yes, really. He retweeted Zoe Williams article as a ‘powerful defense (sic) of trans rights’ and has gone on in replies to demonstrate he has zero understanding of what the issues are here. Keeps complaining about ‘negative stereotypes’. He’s stuck way back in ‘be kind, men are nasty to transsexuals in prison so let anyone self-identify into women’s prison’.

Many women & some men well on the way to ratio-ing him, but will he listen?

twitter.com/billybragg/status/1237489351535271938?s=21

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Lordfrontpaw · 11/03/2020 19:52

He can tell can he? Well he must be a Very Amazing Man indeed.

No one asked you Billy.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 11/03/2020 19:54

Oooh Billy must have the knack of that seeing people’s soul thing Hmm

ThinEndoftheWedge · 11/03/2020 19:59

Where’s Layla...?!

Lordfrontpaw · 11/03/2020 20:02

Urgh. Just looked at his twitter account. He is so full of crap. I KNEW IT! You can’t fool a Frontpaw (my mum had ‘the gift’ to to spot Bullshit - among other things)

Melroses · 11/03/2020 20:02

He's been listening to Zoe Williams, Lisa Nandy and Jess Phillips apaz, so knows everything. Hmm

Melroses · 11/03/2020 20:05

Just have mixed sex everything and put the predators somewhere else?

That is a fantastic idea. As I said upthread, he just needs to share the little secret of how we remove the bad men, and society will change for the better.

midgebabe · 11/03/2020 20:08

Ah pet, there are so few bad men you needn't worry, and if women were just nicer to them even the bad ones would be good.

LittleRootie · 11/03/2020 20:13

Got himself a nice lot of attention - just as intended no doubt. He's high as kite on the fumes of his own egomania

Lordfrontpaw · 11/03/2020 20:15

Well he’s got a tv appearance and a tour to promote...

jamrollyolly · 11/03/2020 20:21

I've always had a lot of respect for Billy Bragg. This disappoints me but doesn't surprise me, he's been Labour for 40 years, he's not going to go against the party now. He'd loose all his friends, colleagues and a lot of fans. He's not that brave, he's only a man after all.

This played in a pub I was in the other day, it was close to tears all round.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=423ghmJgIYQ

Lordfrontpaw · 11/03/2020 20:27

I didn’t need to say anything if he was too feart of The Party.

FloralBunting · 11/03/2020 20:29

I'm not great at protest songs, but I know a few football chants. How about

Billy Bragg's a tatter
He wears a tatter's hat
He discounts women's voices
And he is a fckin twt.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/03/2020 20:31

That’s pure poetry...

Lordfrontpaw · 11/03/2020 20:32

Aw Billy you should have listened to Kirsty

I don't want to change the world
I'm not looking for a new England
(Was looking for ‘another girl’ through)

Ikeasucks · 11/03/2020 20:33

I’ve commented on twitter like others but it’s actually a bit demeaning, almost sad to see so many women desperately seeking his approval, begging him to listen - he is ONE man, ONE bloody man. Only plus is that in these cases generally it’s the gallery that’s being addressed - the lurkers, the waverers, the policy makers, media etc,

Melroses · 11/03/2020 20:39

It's playing to the gallery, otherwise I would have tweeted what floral said. I've not been sycophantic though.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/03/2020 20:40

Not really begging though - I think people are a bit gobsmacked. But then - if you thought about it, he’s a Party Robot. If labour decreed you pain your bum blue on a Monday he’d be there with woad (while the wokebros pondered the Celtic cultural appropriation hierarchy of victimism).

LambriniSocialist · 11/03/2020 20:51

He is just another bloke who thinks that women only exist to validate and protect males, not as their own separate entity with their own rights. He thinks women only exist in relation to men and what they need.

Same misogyny, different day.

nauticant · 11/03/2020 21:01

After something like this the old school misogynists actually look like the lesser of two evils. At least with them you're not having someone trying to gaslight you while feeling virtuous about it.

In the current attempted colonisation of women's spaces, what's actually safer: to be viewed as private property or as public property?

UpfieldHatesWomen · 11/03/2020 21:05

Gotta be honest, I've never seen the appeal of Billy Bragg, always thought his songs were crap - forced lyrics, preachy tone, seemingly no interest or ability with poetic devices. Horrible voice, mediocre guitarist, really unoriginal melodies. Now that I know he's also a misogynist he has even less appeal. Twat.

Melroses · 11/03/2020 21:18

If labour decreed you pain your bum blue on a Monday he’d be there with woad (while the wokebros pondered the Celtic cultural appropriation hierarchy of victimism).

I think you are right. There is so much of this in the Labour Party, yet no one wants to grasp the nettle and come up with something viable and voteable for the 21st century.

I liked a couple of his songs way back when I didn't know much about anything and that was it really - thought I ought to like them. One moves on.

nauticant · 11/03/2020 21:26

For those that missed this gem:

twitter.com/billybragg/status/1237823776408166404

We can safely conclude that when 99.9% of the country has figured this out, Bragg will be in the 0.01%.

UpfieldHatesWomen · 11/03/2020 21:38

He's been on tour with Grace Petrie, another crap woke songwriter. As she's young and writes songs about the gender religion he's probably calculated that this will be a good way of being 'relevant' to a younger generation, trying to widen the fanbase. God, it's all so cynical, isn't it? All these beardy blokes jumping on whatever bandwagon they think will make them popular, win them votes or get them laid with woke young handmaidens, when we know full well that they know the difference between men and women. Stop. Telling. Lies.

Cwenthryth · 11/03/2020 21:40

Well Helen Mimmymum Mermaids (hi sweetie!! 👋🏻) says it’s all our fault people are being mean to Billy because I posted this thread here.

Who knew we had such power wims.

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TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 11/03/2020 21:41

I hadn’t heard about this till I saw the thread title, but I just knew which side he would have come down on.

He was the original Wokey Blokey, wasn’t he?

Prick.

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