Layla Moran: Potential Lib Dem leadership candidate becomes first MP to come out as pansexual

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Quote: Ms Moran, 37, told PinkNews that she had not previously had same-sex relationships and was “surprised” to find herself attracted to a woman, but added: “Sometimes, when you meet the right person, it just kind of happens.”

She said she was more comfortable with the label “pansexual” than “bisexual” or “gay” because it referred to the idea of love for an individual person for who they are and not their gender or sexual identity.

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A bi friend of mine was told by one of the woke folk she should identify as Pansexual because Bisexual was "reinforcing the gender binary."

Well, there's a good way to kill your libido stone dead right there.

Bisexual reinforcing the gender binary

Bisexual is exactly what it says on the tin, it doesn't reinforce anything.

I rather like the portmanteau -
Gendernary, rhymes with ordinary.

What's not to like?

The word 'bisexual' says precisely nothing about 'gender'.

Perhaps we should award to those whose posts are quoted in the Mail.

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Bit of a disingenuous one from the Mail, there.

So are activists now saying it should be GTQ+ rather than LGBTQ+, having tried to make sure women and their sexuality is removed from consideration or defined in terms of "non-women" - a term the Green Party uses.

That's a very clever bit of reporting from the mail imo. They have managed to write a whole article about what Layla Moran's new girlfriend did, they legal threats to journalists, fake email, having to resign from the party without getting their hands dirty AND LM using her new pansexuality for woke points / distraction because all they're doing is reporting that LM is complaining about us nasty mums being horrid to her.

Plus they used the le cruseut joke.

Seems like pretty sensible journalism to me.

It could be that I read it before my coffee kicked in, youropinion, but the impression I got was “Mumsnet is mean to Layla because she has a girlfriend”.

I though it buried the lead a bit in that the stuff about the fraud came further down, and if I didn’t know what had happened, I’m not sure the article would have enlightened me on that front. And it seemed a little like they were saying “people are only concerned about it because yikes! She’s dating a woman”. I’d hate there to be any kind of association like that made, because Layla dating a woman is and should be the most unremarkable thing in this story.

Maybe now I’ve had my coffee I’ll read it again

Lol, that article got her bang to rights. Good quotes too. She can shag who she wants, but it doesn't change the fact that her girlfriend is being investigated for some very dubious behaviour.

I can see her soul, and it's so transparent.

There's a text box off to the side (as I view it on my phone, anyway) that sets out the threats to journalists pretty clearly.

I pretty much don't care about being thrown up as the scapegoat if it means that the points we are making in here - ie, LM hiding behind her new exciting label - gets made to that many readers.

Oh, I missed that, then!

Fair enough.

Might make up a new sexuality wherein I'm attracted to everyone apart from Lib Dems.

Dishonesty, biphobia, authoritarianism and possibility of getting a Challenor. Cant' risk it.

The Fail is such a master of snide! I'm most happy Layla's le Creuset genderuality made print!

The more I read about this scandal at Lib Dem HQ the more i feel there must be a bit more to this story. I can’t imagine what would cause someone with no press experience to be the best candidate for such a highly competitive job.

Head of Press is an absolutely key role especially for a less prominent national political party in the run up to a General election and the impending Brexit debates- one of the Lib Dem’s key USP policy points.

You’d expect the Lib Dem’s Head of Press to be an established name who has previously run a few press offices, with a personal network of press contact relationships going back years. Plus a demonstrated grasp of both the political issues and the precision of judgement that usually requires years of experience to acquire.

Given the Lib Dems have had record numbers of new members joining since the 2016 referendum this is an even more high profile role. The party would have had their absolute pick of highly experienced candidates for it. It’s a very odd choice they made.

They do seem to like to jump into a little controversy, then regale us with every detail, in detail, as to how it got there.

The Lib Dem's still act as though they are tiny organisation with hardly any members. I got very few begging letters this general election, and they do seem to spend most of their money on campaigning, not much on HQ and infrastructure. Hopefully this is something Mark Pack will change as he seems to have his head screwed on.
They should get far more money from members and get some properly qualified and experienced staff, and not just provide "stop gap" jobs for those who want to be MPs etc.

There is an element of the desexualising of sexual attraction about pansexuality.

Well, there's also this: aroacefaq.tumblr.com/post/143810110365/the-split-attraction-model-what-is-it I'm waiting for the first demiromantic ace MP now.

I like the Mail story, glad the dodgy politics are being aired again.

Sunlight...

I hope the message is getting through that woke does not attract votes. Boris has a strong majority and has eliminated the obvious opposition from within his party and seems determined to rule by kitchen cabinet. I think we want/need good sensible articulate people leading opposition parties who will scrutinise and question his major economic and social policies, no matter whether they are het, homo, bi or pan. If the Mail has a motivation, other than to create click bait, I suspect it is this. There are lots within the Tories who are not 100% sold on Boris.

Is there any credible talent within the Parliamentary LibDems? The last election should have been a wake up call for them as much as Labour.

Is there any credible talent within the Parliamentary LibDems?

Much muttering about Daisy Cooper (St Albans) as a potential Next-Leader-But-One.

I can’t imagine what would cause someone with no press experience to be the best candidate for such a highly competitive job.

I am also hugely puzzled by this. Normally a job like that would go to a former national newspaper or broadcasting journalist - think people like Alastair Campbell and Guto Harri. You absolutely would not give it to someone who had neither journalistic nor PR experience.

So why did Rosy Cooper get given the job? Because it was such a terrible job no one else would do it? Because she knew the right people? Something very odd going on there.

Add to the really poor campaign run by Jo Swinson.

She could have simply run a campaign that mirrored the Tories. No wide slate of policies. Simply a "our priority is Europe" type slogan, which gave voters a clear choice. They may then have squeezed through in a number of remain voting constituencies.

Opening up the TWAW debate was suicidal. My guess is that many voters were new to it and first reactions probably were that she sounded daft. (As Layla Moran will sound to many who have to google pansexual.)

Those running the party seem to be in a strange bubble, failing to spot that Aimee Challenor was never going to be an asset, failing to understand what the big issues were, not understanding the need to avoid more toxic peripheral issues and so on.

All of which allows Boris to play his hand free of significant opposition scrutiny.

Because the reality is they are a small political party which makes them.vulnerable to this kind of thing. It's why until recently a small group of activists had a considerable hold on the party.

Yes, I think people are seeing visions of a professionally run outfit and sharp savvy straight of The Thick of It. The LibDems seem to be operating on a slapdash, shoestring methodology of "Give 'em a go, how hard can it be?" naivety. Which is why you had that shitshow of an election campaign, with puddle deep analysis and policy ideas that look bold if you've thought them up in the pub at lunch time.

Those running the party seem to be in a strange bubble, failing to spot that Aimee Challenor was never going to be an asset, failing to understand what the big issues were, not understanding the need to avoid more toxic peripheral issues and so on.

And either ignoring, telling to shut up or threatening with disciplinary sanctions those who tried to highlight the issues

But the mutterings internally are louder now. I dont think they will change yet but I think it's the beginning of the change. Still not a party I could vote for but I have it in me to feel a little sorry for those lib dems at a local level who think they are doing the right thing.