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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

British woman found guilty of making up rape claims

308 replies

RoyalCorgi · 30/12/2019 10:12

The war on women continues:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/30/briton-found-guilty-over-ayia-napa-false-claim-cyprus

The poor, poor woman. Facing a year in jail for being gang-raped.

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bd67th · 30/12/2019 22:18

I hope she appeals the verdict. If there's a crowfunder and anyone knows where it is, PM me with a link please.

Women don't consent to sex with 12 guys at a time. End of. The chafing alone prohibits the notion.

That's Cyprus and Israel both off my travel list.

grafittiartist · 30/12/2019 22:19

There is a crown finder.
I found it in the comments under a news report in Facebook comments. Can't remember which paper- sorry.

BarbaraStrozzi · 30/12/2019 22:22

Thanks, Purported. I'll go and look at Julie's Twitter feed.

theflushedzebra · 30/12/2019 22:29

Where is the video footage that some of the guys filmed?

Apparently some of it has been leaked to porn sites, which is utterly disgusting. Trouble is, it'll only show part of the ordeal and could be edited to make it seem like she was a willing participant.

God how sickening. And of course, lets not forget, how does one girl fight off 12 men? She was reportedly bloodied and injured already -self preservation would probably stop you continually fighting back and getting injured further. Poor poor girl, it makes me want to cry. What a world.

BarbaraStrozzi · 30/12/2019 22:32

Wow - that's incredible. I don't think I've ever seen a crowd funder growing at that sort of rate.

I hope the poor girl's lawyers are able to tell her just how many people there are out there who clearly believe her, and are prepared to back that belief up.

For anyone who's having trouble finding it - Julie Bindel's twitter feed, then search the page for "Cyprus".

BarbaraStrozzi · 30/12/2019 22:33

Now a quick check of my bank account to make sure my January pay's gone in, then I'll add to the page!

theflushedzebra · 30/12/2019 22:38

#BoycottCyprus has really taken off on twitter - crowdfunder and petition doing well. I hope she knows she has support.

ahumanfemale · 30/12/2019 22:38

A short video was posted to pornhub.

So even if it was consensual, there's the revenge porn aspect.

But hey, they're good boys, right? Angry

theflushedzebra · 30/12/2019 22:41

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/30/briton-found-guilty-over-ayia-napa-false-claim-cyprus?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

UK Govt are "raising concerns" - lets hope something actually happens.

bd67th · 30/12/2019 22:46

A short video was posted to pornhub.

I hope her lawyers get it taken down. This is why I just can't trust men any more: I don't know if the lovely colleague at the next desk might rape me and put the footage online if given the chance. The technology that I had hoped would help us to prove rape cases is instead used to make sure that the victim is violated thousands of times more after the rape by men wanking to the footage of this criminal act.

Flowers for her and I really hope that she is told the number of women supporting her and believing her and that our support gives her some strength.

Voice0fReason · 30/12/2019 23:02

I believe her. My heart breaks for what she must be going through.

I found her crowdfunder on Julie Bindel's Twitter page and have retweeted and donated.

custardlover · 30/12/2019 23:08

I believe her.

BarbaraStrozzi · 30/12/2019 23:10

Alec, just to let you know, MN will almost certainly delete your post because they have a blanket policy of not allowing links to crowd funders. The trick is to include enough information that people can Google it for themselves.

Uncompromisingwoman · 30/12/2019 23:13

Donated in the name of all of our daughters.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 30/12/2019 23:24

barbara - hopefully a few people will follow the link before it gets removed

but point taken.

it is good that people are supporting the fund to help teen victim get justice in cyprus

jakeyboy1 · 30/12/2019 23:33

It really bothers me how it is being reported by the press. If you catch the headline you have no idea of the story just that someone has been jailed for a false rape accusation. I didn't read the full story until later today and was so shocked compared to the snippets I'd heard/seen on headlines.

BarbaraStrozzi · 30/12/2019 23:35

Good to have the link even if fleetingly. It is some small measure of comfort in the face of this horrific miscarriage of justice and the awful ordeal this young woman went through in the first place that so many people care, and are on her side, and are prepared to support her.

angell84 · 30/12/2019 23:51

I am not judging against a whole nation but a similiar thing happened to me with a group of Israelis.

I was having a holiday romance with one. I was having sex with him in his hotel room, three of his friends came to the door - he said oh of course they can join in. He went to open the door quickly while I was lying there naked. I wrapped the blanket around me and went and locked myself in the bathroom. I wouldnt come out until they were gone. But it was the way he just assumed - you are having sex with me, of course tou will have sex with my friends

angell84 · 30/12/2019 23:57

How does anyone know that those gofundme fundraisers are legitimate? Anyone could set up a fundraiser and say it was for her. Who is John Hobbs - the name on that gofundme ljnk?

Gronky · 30/12/2019 23:57

Women don't consent to sex with 12 guys at a time. End of.

In a wider sense, beyond this specific, deeply unfortunate case, please consider the harm that attitudes like this can cause to other women.

angell84 · 30/12/2019 23:58

Sorry - I read the link all the way through , and I see that it is her dad.

pallisers · 31/12/2019 00:03

Women don't consent to sex with 12 guys at a time. End of.

I wouldn't say end of - maybe some women would consent to sex with 12 guys at a time. Does anyone know any woman who has? But I think that is a very rare woman.

The automatic presumption that a woman WOULD consent to sex with 11 unknown friends of her date instead of the presumption that it is far more likely she wouldn't is what bothers me. It is entirely born out of porn - people have now succeeded in presuming that what would normally be extreme porn-fantasies are somehow the norm for 19 year olds.

that sounds terrifying Angel.

Wineloffa · 31/12/2019 00:03

I believe her

pallisers · 31/12/2019 00:03

In a wider sense, beyond this specific, deeply unfortunate case, please consider the harm that attitudes like this can cause to other women.

what harm would be caused by presuming women don't usually consent to sex with their dates and 11 of their friends?

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