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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie Parker. For women and children. I adore her.

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Backinthecloset123 · 30/11/2019 06:31

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weirdchocolates · 30/11/2019 15:42

Making a documentary about a far right group is different from appearing on their channels without challenging them as im sure you know. I care about women including jewish women and woc

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 30/11/2019 15:44

What does "promoting" mean in your usage? Probably not the one from the dictionary so could you clarify?

I'm obvs not the poster you're referring to, but seeing as the poster mentions clicks I'm assuming it means by every watch of the video, every click on it, you're directly giving profit/revenue to his channel.
So that would be promoting his views to a wider audience as well.
Seeing as the only people who would be wanting to follow him in the first place are people with the same views, not exactly sure who's she expecting to reach on there.

DanaPhoenix · 30/11/2019 15:44

koshkat Thank you, for taking the effort to read through my rambling.
BickerinBrattle Great point. Words and the actual meaning of them are incredibly important. So many words are actually a base or root of other words. Knowing this gives an ability to increase and develop our vocabulary and more effective means of communication. I’ve possibly worded (pardon the pun) this poorly but I think most should get the gist.

The deliberate destruction of language is insidious.

Datun · 30/11/2019 15:46

Honestly. This ridiculous determination to criticise someone for not frothing enough over something that you disagree with. Posie disagrees with that man, as she unequivocally disagrees with the white supremacist guy. All of it.

She's just not frothing enough!

That's all you've got. That's it.

You can't actually disagree with what she is positively campaigning for, can you? What she's actually saying, campaigning about, her activism??

You've
Got
Nothing.

Nada.

Zero.

BovaryX · 30/11/2019 15:49

Fred Phelps? That nut job that was protesting outside veterans’ funerals?

Fieldofgreycorn · 30/11/2019 15:50

she doesn't actually give a fuck if you like her, she's not trying to be nice, she doesn't care about nice,

Not exactly the best recipe for a pleasant world is it. You could end up with something awful. Like it was run by men or something.

BickerinBrattle · 30/11/2019 15:51

Bovary

Considering that Hillary is indelibly linked to NAFTA, which decimated working class jobs in the Rust Belt, and considering that several Rust Belt states experienced millions of illegal foreclosures, for which the Obama administration provided no legal relief, and considering that Obama presided over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history from the working and middle classes to the wealthy, including the complete rollback of African-American wealth to pre-1965 levels —

It’s no real surprise voters didn’t have a lot of enthusiasm for a campaign that explicitly promised more of the same.

In a two-party system, voters can only kick out the politicians they have, not the ones they don’t have.

Besides, in US history, it’s practically axiomatic that after 8 years of 1 party in the WH, voters turn to the other party.

If Hillary had run a better campaign, she might have won, it was that close. But she was badly advised by Robbie Mook, the same guy who advised Theresa May.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 30/11/2019 15:53

Posie disagrees with that man, as she unequivocally disagrees with the white supremacist guy. All of it.

So why would she want to line his pockets by appearing on his channel and giving credence to his other vile views about women?
Challenge them did she, or just smile and nod when he spoke?
As that would look like she agrees with him.
The Theroux examples aren't even comparable as that's making a documentary on a mainstream channel to expose their views and way of life etc.
The only way it would start to be is if Theroux decided to go onto the personal youtube channel of say the leader of the Church.
And nobody else has used the word "frothing"only you - nobody's "frothing" (least I'm not anyway) - it's called a difference of opinion.

iamright17 · 30/11/2019 15:53

Trigonometry Video now 296 thousand.

www.youtube.com/channel/UC7oPkqeHTwuOZ5CZ-R9f-6w

BickerinBrattle · 30/11/2019 15:53

Yes, Bovary that nut job. Protesting against vets isn’t exactly going to win over hearts and minds in the US. He’s a nothing.

BovaryX · 30/11/2019 16:00

Besides, in US history, it’s practically axiomatic that after 8 years of 1 party in the WH, voters turn to the other party

Absolutely. Hillary was the ultimate Beltway establishment candidate. What do you think will happen next year? Bloomberg’s running for the Dems...

Mumfun · 30/11/2019 16:05

There are always outliers in every movement that are a bit too strong in their views for the regular members. Posie is that outlier. I dont agree with all her views but am glad she exists. She has been very brave and spoken up fearlessly for women. She is right in her basic campaigns against the definition of a women being changed and kids being transed. She appeals to a different section of the population than feminists.

I include all women from left wing to right wing in my definition of what a women is and am glad that she is prepared to speak to the whole range.

BickerinBrattle · 30/11/2019 16:06

I think the only candidate who can beat Trump is Bernie Sanders, and the Democrats will not allow him the nomination.

Bloomberg is nothing but a spoiled hoping for a “brokered” convention in which party big-wigs select the nominee. Meaning he’s hoping no candidate has a clear enough plurality to win on a first round of voting when the state delegates to the convention all vote.

The Democrats are not obliged to go along with how the voters in each state primary vote. They successfully argued in 2017 that as a private organisation they are not obliged to adhere to their own rules or even to run fair elections.

BickerinBrattle · 30/11/2019 16:07

Sorry for the derail.

YY Mumfun*

Datun · 30/11/2019 16:08

So why would she want to line his pockets by appearing on his channel and giving credence to his other vile views about women?

I don't know, when did you stop hitting your wife?

Lamahaha · 30/11/2019 16:08

Re the scary 1950s housewife persona - if you put yourself in the public eye in the way she has done then image does matter. Look at Danielle Muscato - their image really hasn't helped with the cause they are trying to promote and it's the same the other way with Posie.

If some bluehaired woke people who think they are doing feminism right had a fraction of the spunk, truthfulness, and downright grit of PP we wouldn't be in the position we are now.

Has it still not sunk in that being a SAHM does not actually rot/melt your brain so that all you think of is nappies and prams, and all you are good for is building Lego towers?

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 30/11/2019 16:12

What is that even supposed to mean?
Instead of actually answering you say I'm a man and a wife beater because I asked a question?
Just....wow.
I'm female actually.
Vile.

Datun · 30/11/2019 16:12

Vile

🤣

TruthOnTrial · 30/11/2019 16:13

She spoke very clearly, and very strongly.

It was blatantly obvious her outrage for the threat to women, and determination to speak truth no matter who she speaks it to.

Even if her words conflict with those who host them, she's still telling her truth and it's no surprise to me that others want to attack her in other ways, regardless of what she's actually saying.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 30/11/2019 16:15

Well maybe not in your world it's fine to accuse people of being abusers, but not mine.
Just...what the fuck?

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 30/11/2019 16:16

Maybe in your world but not mine that should read.

TruthOnTrial · 30/11/2019 16:17

Side indictment of judgement poured on women that you can only be a certain type of woman to speak your truth.

It comes over loud and clear that her truth is uncomfortable for many and they want her shut down so judge her to demean her, put her down and shut her up.

Happily, she won't be shut up, despite actual threats of violence against her and her family she still speaks the truth.

Datun · 30/11/2019 16:18

You can't even keep track of your own argument strategy, wills.

www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html

nauticant · 30/11/2019 16:18

Putting on a show of outrage to show how evil your opponent is doesn't work very well on here WotchaTalkinBoutWillis.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 30/11/2019 16:22

Seriously - you just completely quoted my comment and the only thing you did in it was to accuse me of being an abuser for having a different opinion.
That's not DARVO before you start going on, it's literally what happened.
You think that's not vile, do a little smile instead at being called out on it? Then just start posting links along with another dig?
It's disgusting.
That a better word for you?
What the actual fuck.