Posie Parker. For women and children. I adore her.

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That's all.

YY Bovary, by people so woke they will happily wave in the destruction of women's spaces, scholarships, AWL, sports, privacy, safety, and happily allow women to share a prison block with a sex offender with a penis.

How in the name of fuck is that good for women? How is it feminism?

YY Bovary, by people so woke they will happily wave in the destruction of women's spaces

The other defining feature is acceptance of newspeak and an aggressive onslaught against freedom of speech. I am very pleased that Harry and Maya have amplified this existential threat to freedom of speech to the media

sapphos you misunderstand me.

I hadn’t heard of him before and still know nothing about it. I doubt many people in this thread, let alone irl, could even name him.

Posie hasn’t given him any publicity that I can see. If anyone it’s the “TRA / c*s ally” side doing that by continually bringing him up.

Yes, Bovary - including the complete decimation of the language women are allowed to use to define themselves - pregnant people, cervix havers , chestfeeding and so on.

It is because I am a mum to an ROGD child that I want my voice heard.

Solidarity iamright I'm listening and you have my support. I can't imagine what you're living with

I watched Posie's video yesterday. I am not affected by the trans issue in the same way as you are but it does have an impact on me as someone who very much needs sex segregated spaces. The RELIEF I felt knowing that Posie is speaking out and there are thousands and thousands of people who are listening and then leaving comments in agreement with her. I could cry. I don't agree with everything Posie says and does but I don't need to, I think she is utterly brave and is doing so much good work.

I hadn’t heard of him before and still know nothing about it. I doubt many people in this thread, let alone irl, could even name him.

Quite so. He’s a nonentity. But a previous poster made an excellent point about PP being effectively deplatformed. And when you think about the sinister implications of that and its impact on what media hosts her? It really speaks volumes about the overwhelming desire of a specific lobby group to completely silence her

It really seems very simple to me. Posie has two points on which she campaigns:

Men cannot become women and should never be treated in law or by society as if they could.

Medical intervention in minors in the name of "gender identity" is equivalent to child abuse.

Posie's campaigning MO is straightforward:

tell as many people as possible about these two views, regardless of their political persuasions or stances on other issues

Some people think self-ID is a step too far but it's reasonable to treat some transsexual males as women in law with a few caveats. Some people think it's reasonable to medically treat some children but only with gatekeeping, not affirmation. Some people prefer political purity to speaking to anyone. Posie takes a different view. As is her right in a democracy.

Yet the woke will happily have all Muslim women and women from other minority religions confined to the house because there will be no toilet facilities or changing rooms they can safely use, while Posie Parker is doing everything possible to protect those safe spaces.

I really like this point Coyoacan. The decision about the Hampstead Ladies Pond which was used by Orthodox Jewish women and where an alternative mixed sex facility existed is an exact example of this.

I don’t like her focus on trans women’s appearance but would I have had the ingenuity to put TV screens with the dictionary definition of a woman on the Royal Opera House etc when my advertising hoarding was taken down? The answer is a resounding no. I think she gets so much attention because she is so effective - as someone upthread said. I also think there is an element of misogyny, the idea that a ‘stay at home’ woman couldn’t develop and fund her own campaign without far right funding.

I really like this point Coyoacan. The decision about the Hampstead Ladies Pond which was used by Orthodox Jewish women and where an alternative mixed sex facility existed is an exact example of this.

Yes! This infuriates me!

It's NOT just about allowing TW to take part - they can already do so in the mixed sex pond.

It's about not allowing women to have ANY women only space. Which is exclusionary of a few specific groups of women.

Sometimes I think it's just men like Edward Lord thumbing their nose at women - and delighting in removing our rights and privacy - and just using the cover of "trans rights" to do so.

Reading the transcripts of the London council meetings, when Lord got the results of his consultation - just confirms this suspicion. He was going to go to ANY LENGTHS to force the gender neutral thing through.

Same with the Mayor of Liverpool. Who already has some very dubious stuff in his history.

Seeing so many men's rights activists delighting in this - "you feminists brought this on yourselves!" - just sickening. How can any woman doubt that this is a sustained campaign against women?

It really seems very simple to me. Posie has two points on which she campaigns:

Men cannot become women and should never be treated in law or by society as if they could.

• Pointless argument as the GRA isn't going to be repealed. Don't see what purpose this serves apart from spreading general hostility towards trans people? It's a bit like constantly spouting that gay marriage should be banned and gay people shouldn't have equal rights - pointless because it's already law and isn't being challenged by any political party.

Medical intervention in minors in the name of "gender identity" is equivalent to child abuse.

No minor in the UK would ever be given gender reassignment surgery so another pointless argument.

The issue of blockers and the ethics of prescribing them to under 18s is a reasonable concern but I haven't seen Posie making any videos about this.

The issue of blockers and the ethics of prescribing them to under 18s is a reasonable concern but I haven't seen Posie making any videos about this.

Are you joking??

I like Posie. You know where you are with Posie.

She talks to people who usually think this is just a squabble between 'Feminists' and the 'Alphabet soup' and they begins to see its relevance to their lives and stop dismissively talking about ideologies eating their own tails.

Sappho - I wasn't asking you to rebut her points. I was explaining them as the various mudslinging usually ignores them. As is evident on this thread. The point is that she is perfectly entitled to her views and her campaigning as we live in a democratic society.

As for the GRA - we will either move forward into an elite-dominated transhumanist society and the GRA will be the least of our problems or there will be a massive backlash and it will be repealed. It might even depend on what the coming Chinese-dominated era decides. That's my view. Big picture, all that. Fuck all to do with being nice to the Most Oppressed.

This false equivalence with gay rights has got to STOP. Gay rights have no impact on anyone else.

Trans rights = any adult male (not only genuine Trans people) can ID into female lockers, jails, sports and short lists. This is impacting on girls and women.

Totally different.

It was a very calculated act to add the T on to the LGB wasn't it? Smart move by the gender obsessives.

She's a one track pony, but I still like her. At least she's out there doing something, speaking her truth.

Men cannot become women and should never be treated in law or by society as if they could......- Pointless argument as the GRA isn't going to be

Er, no. It isn’t a pointless argument. This issue is about; inter alia; the conflicting rights of women and the trans lobby, the extent of regulatory capture which has meant that radical policies are being implemented in both the state and private sector without any democratic mandate, an onslaught against freedom of speech which is explicitly highlighted by two cases awaiting verdicts, the use of compelled speech and its implications, the impact of social contagion on children and teens and the pathologising of any gender non conformity. This is a debate which is imperative. I don’t have much respect for those frantically trying to shut it down

BovaryX completely disagree. The issue at hand is the Equality Act exemptions and whether they will be upheld.

As long as these exemptions are in place, strengthened and organisations are made aware that they can be upheld then women are protected.

As long as trans women aren't competing in our sporting events, applying to become female rape crisis counsellors or winning our female only prizes etc (covered by the EA exemptions) then their piece of paper stating they are a woman has little negative impact on women.

Posie conveniently ignores all this.