It's official, Marks and Spencer have fallen

[MrsSnippyPants]

I know we have 'known' this for a while, but this is now their official response. How many 'inappropriate' incidents will be necessary before they see sense?

#BoycottM&S

They stupidly think lesbians are a problem for women.

Idiots.

Well, that's just a roundabout the houses way of saying yes, people are boycotting because of transpeople being welcome in changing rooms, isn't it?

I know it's probably got lost in the fast-moving thread today.

My post earlier today highlighted that the definition of 'transpeople' given by high-profile trans advisors such as Tara Hewitt includes:

people that festishistically cross-dress, so they wear clothing to get a sexual desire out of that clothing of the opposite gender. Generally associated with men wearing women's underwear, erm, and women's clothing

Even Tara calls them men in this instance! Men with a fetish = trans = transpeople.

Could you tell me why women should be enthusiastically welcoming this group of transpeople into their changing rooms? Because I'm flummoxed!

Just men we don't want in women's changing rooms. Any men. All men.

Received same cut and paste. Am going to send a more considered reply tomorrow when I ain't drunk as a skunk. 🙂

@maybejustmaybe
This whole thread has been about MEN being allowed to access Women's changing rooms, as you didn't bother to Read The Fucking Thread, you'll have missed that fact. Its nothing to do with people that are trans. You brought up the fact that if MEN are banned from Women's changing rooms then Lesbian women should be too.
That makes you a complete and utter homophobe.

Racked my brains trying to think of when last felt scared of a lesbian....er....make that NEVER.
Number of times I have felt sick with fear of males ? Countless.

maybe Men are not pervs because they are sexually attracted to women.

so using your logic

I dont think you know what logic means

You think being attracted to women makes someone a pervert? How very odd.

maybe and wotcha

Given there is evidence that women are more at risk when there are mixed sex changing/fitting rooms, and that 98% of sexual crimes are committed by males, why are you finding it so hard to understand there are real concerns here? Men are committing sexual crimes in mixed sex facilities, why should businesses not take steps to prevent it from happening? Why should women just accept this? Why do you think single sex facilities existed in the first place?

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html

https://womanmeanssomething.com/1034-2/

Who on earth on this thread said lesbians are male? No one. But many said that people born male are perverts and would go into changing rooms for sexual pleasure. The reason people mentioned lesbians is because lesbians are sexually attracted to females so using your logic of men are pervs because they are sexually attracted to women would therefore also apply to lesbians. There is no homophobia here, but I can see a ton of transphobia

This

You think being attracted to women makes someone a pervert? How very odd.

PP's comment, head, point, whooosh
They didn't say that at all.

watcha they are saying that that is what is being said on this thread. It is not.

Why can’t you tell the difference between sexual attraction and perversion Maybe? Read that M&S sissification link I posted and then explain why what he’s up to is a form of sexual attraction. Bonus points if you can engineer sissy embarrassment into your explanation.

Ive a problem with self id

M&S new policy takes self id to an extreme

Sigh.
No, that's a complete misrepresentation (either unable to follow logic or deliberately twisting).

The issue isn't that people attracted to women are pervs. Most of them aren't. The issue is that most pervs (and worse) are men.

The reason people mentioned lesbians is because lesbians are sexually attracted to females so using your logic of men are pervs because they are sexually attracted to women would therefore also apply to lesbians.

I really would like a translation from frothing genderist into English here.

Thanks you errol that was much clearer!

Wotcha RTFT
As Rufus said, yours and maybes understanding of logic is a bit suspect and quite possibly neither of you understand the meaning of the word logic

But many said that people born male are perverts and would go into changing rooms for sexual pleasure

Yes, and they HAVE. One prolific poster has said and implied as much, it never gets pulled up and questioned though.
It's there though, on the thread whether people want to see it or not.

Men who aren’t perverts would stay in the changing rooms in the men’s department.

Lesbian women want to be able to try their bras on for size in the changing room just like any other woman.

Well, if they have said that (rather than that some males are) then they were wrong.

Where do the frothing confused angry genderists want lesbians to try things on? Cause I'm fine with "in the same fitting room as me" as an option. Men, not so much.

Excellent email Raindrops17

But many said that people born male are perverts and would go into changing rooms for sexual pleasure.

Not one person has said that male bodied people are perverts. Point it out where that has been said. You’re so desperate to shut women down that you’re just outright lying now.
It has been pointed out that male bodied perverts will now have an open invitation to use the unisex changing room to get access to females. Are you saying that’s never going to happen?