I Believe Her

[Brittany2019]

This is disappointing :

The fucking comments though...

The TWAW post even if he rapes you with his penis is fucking disgusting.

I will not be visiting the page again.

It’s interesting that yesterday frothy was adamant her page was not going to facilitate the trans debate. Today she is hosting the debate

Or rather hosting the “no debate”.

It’s interesting that yesterday frothy was adamant her page was not going to facilitate the trans debate. Today she is hosting the debate

Once you open the door, the result is complete control.

But she's banning the use of terf.
That is actually a very brave move and she will get criticised for it, and will have fewer gender critical people to back her up now many have left.
I wish her all the luck in the world.

Oh this is embarrassing. Frothy, you’re comments here are awful. I’m cringing while reading them. Change the page name to reflect your views. Your page is not for women that have been raped, it’s for anyone that has and that’s okay, but change the name you are using it wrong. Your excuse about the comments is bullshit though, don’t even try and defend them. If you didn’t know how to turn the comments off which is a bit unbelievable really, then you should have been deleting them all. However, you are allowing women to be abused on a page that is meant to support them, that’s shocking and honestly, I hope everyone leaves and finds somewhere else for support. Although, female only spaces are scarce these days and even ones that claim to be control and police our language.

Power there is no societal structure on earth that is based on and perpetuates the hatred of men. That is why misandry can only be said to exist (and I would debate it even does) as a reaction within individual women who have been on the receiving end of abusive men.

And I should add, among women who despise the abuses meted out to their sisters. Most likely however, is the hatred of abusive men, rather than hatred of men as a group.

Totally disagree with you, Freebedforflys.
She is trying to keep a useful page going in a really difficult situation where she is on her own and caught between two groups of people and trying to do the right thing.
She is trying to walk a line that might well be impossible to walk, but I respect her for trying.
We might disagree with the line she has taken but attacking her personally is wholly uncalled for.

But she's banning the use of terf.

Good. I missed that in my skimming.

I notice that this particular paragraph is being completely ignored by those who would cry terf.

To be honest frothy I don't doubt this is an extremely difficult situation to be in.

I wonder if you notice that the pro trans lot do not acknowledge the harm self Id does to the victim, an extra layer of fuck you?

"I control you and your thoughts, even in the judiciary system by compelling speech."

I think once women try to compromise with trans activists they are on a hiding to nothing. Nothing is ever enough. Women and girls first as a policy is the only thing that works.

Frothy, you are actually doing sterling work on that post. No one is answering you....

Well they are but #justnotgettingit.

Wow. She's getting heat for not allowing TERF. I mean, she's shat on raped women for the sake of the self ID zealots, and there are people on that page making much of how women rape too, and declaring the you shouldn't 'misgender' your rapist.

I get the defence of her trying to hold some sort of arbitrary line between women and sick fucks who think that raped women need to learn some deference, but quite honestly, if that's the path she wants to walk, she'll be walking it alone and without the respect of the women she presumably originally set the page up for.

Frothy, I just want to say - if you're still reading - good for you for banning the term "TERF" - it's so horribly offensive and used as a term of pejorative abuse against women so much.

if that's the path she wants to walk, she'll be walking it alone and without the respect of the women she presumably originally set the page up for.

This. Frothy you will never capitulate enough for TRAs. You’ve thrown women under the bus for them, and now they’re turning on you for drawing a line. The women who would have supported you are gone.

Your first stance was correct: don’t facilitate the debate. But you applied it incorrectly. You let one side have their say instead of letting no side have their say.

I think Frothy is demonstrating that the supporters of the page will place a man's feelings above a raped women's feelings at all costs.

I did some research for you Powerflowerrr as you're apparently incapable. It seems there are only two threads on mumsnet with "I hate men" in the title, one in lone parents and the other in relationships. The second one titled "I hate men. sorry" (some nice feminine conditioning there).

Why are you telling fibs? For what purpose? Or have you mixed us up with another website?

Um, don't want to derail further as it was a passing example, but try typing "mumsnet hate men" into Google.

I hate men. sorry
I bloody hate men
I'm starting to hate men
Please help me to not hate men
I HATE men
I absolutely categorically unequivocally hate men and it's making me miserable
I HATE MEN!!!!!!
Why is mumsnet so anti men?
Sick of all the man/boy hate
Mumsnet hates men
..to be depressed by the man-haters on AIBU?
Please help me to not hate men
Why is mumsnet so anti men?

I think women have every right to hate their oppressors.

It’s not possible to turn comments off on a post made on Facebook page only on a post made in a Facebook group.

Stop derailing, flowerrrr. Women come here to vent about their relationships with men.