New LGB organisation to replace Stonewall

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Any more information out there on this?

And yet my kid's same sex, London school is still plastered in Stonewall stickers outside the gender neutral toilets. Really annoys me as what they really mean and want to do is support gay children. Who, as I say, seem to be able to come out and get on quite easily and happily now compared to how it used to be.

I just saw this exchange below a poll about Stonewall and it tickled me (my emphasis):

Trans woman tweeter: "You're a straight cis man...you have nothing to do with, and have no knowledge of, LGBTI people or organisations. Take your illogical prejudices elsewhere."

OP: "We have a lot in common".

Also an excellent graphic as attached.

twitter.com/MichealConraoi/status/1187073591394885632

@UpfieldHatesWomen wrote:

Regarding that Twitter screenshot: I'm not a mum, yet I'm a member of Mumsnet. The reason why that is tolerated here is because I don't pretend I'm a mum, tell everyone I'm literally a mum because I feel like one

Yes! This is also me. I too am not a mum but I like being here because I like discussing issues about families, children and education. And I like being on a talkboard that is mainly women.

I very much welcome the new LGB Alliance and will be happy to support them. The screaming from Stonewall is because it fears losing its funding. As Deep Throat said during the Watergate scandal, "Follow the money..."

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I find it telling that at the secondary schools I am involved with none of the kids bat an eyelid or give a shit about kids coming out as gay. They roll their eyes at the trans/pan/fluid/born in the wrong body stuff though. Yiu can't kid a kid. They know being same sex attracted is real but that "born in the wrong body" is not.

That's reassuring. My son is off to secondary next year and I've been wondering what school age teenagers generally think about this stuff.

Oh and just to add that for an insignificant group of mums who enjoy baking (I think the doctor and Mimmy described MN users as similar) they seem to feel incredibly threatened by our influence on every key global issue).

is that actually his name or is it like when people identify as two spirit etc?

They could start naming people by their gender? There are probably more genders than surnames now.

Maybe the MN Radicalisation Portal should be renamed Schrodinger's Radicalisation Portal?

Simultaneously ineffective and meaningless and nobody cares about it; AND highly influential, taking over the world?

Here's a one I saw in one of the outrage flurry threads...Where do they get this stuff, I wonder?

This is a small minority but I have seen quite a few GC lesbians claiming that bisexual people don't face any oppression or discrimination and so therefore shouldn't be at Pride etc with the same sex attracted people.

There’s research indicating bisexuals have worse mental health than other groups, www3.open.ac.uk/media/fullstory.aspx?id=22987 but when I was involved on the scene in the 90s there was an uneasy relationship between many lesbians and bisexual women. I can understand why, but a blanket feeling that bisexual do not experience oppression isn’t useful or true.

I agree EverardDigby

a few GC lesbians claiming that bisexual people don't face any oppression or discrimination

How does that work? Bisexuals usually get a hard time from both straight and gay folk.

I think Miranda has pretty much socially detransed
Ah, ok. I'd missed this.
I hope their funding applications go well.It's perfectly valid to have support and representation for minority groups (LGB) without having to include everyone (TRAs) who feels they want involved. So many experienced people involved in this new organisation too. No wonder the TRAs are unhappy.

"please challenge the new Trans twitter @lgballiance"

Yes, done so. It definitely does scream of immaturity, I wouldn't be surprised if RMcK is behind that (similar desperate writing style)

One of the replies to that tweet says that terfs only barely tolerate bi sexual people.

Have they ever been on FWR? I sometimes feel as though every third poster is bi.

It's not "TERFs" who are trying to erase my sexual orientation and replace it with a term that implies that I have intimate relations with my cookware.

Lol good point, bd67th.

Stonewell split page lead today in Daily Telegraph

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/23/stonewall-splits-accused-promoting-trans-agenda-expense-gay/

That's the article that's had the doc 'frothing at the mouth' today (to coin one of his phrases).

He's so unnerved by it that he's put in an IPSO complaint about the female journalist.

The IPSO must be fed up of his 'flagrant' complaints...

He's going to struggle with that one. The article is straightforwardly news reporting. "Organisation A has split, with the formation of a new splinter group led by its original founder. A spokesperson for the original group said 'blah', a spokesperson for the new group said 'rhubarb'."

Not seeing where the grounds for an IPSO complaint are there. Factual, accurate, gives both sides a chance to air their views.

It looks like the @lgballiance has links with the lovely RJ Firth. He was one of the first accounts followed by them and also one of their first followers.

The outrage is just comical.

Why do they care so much if it is so meaningless and doomed to failure? Why are they so angry about something that - in their opinion - won't make a jot of difference because everyone is on their side? (allegedly)

I read this quote recently and it seems apt for this thread:
"And the howling rage of the transgender extremists against women who dare to say that, as a biological and social category, they exist, displays clear evidence of misogyny."

HandsOffMyRights the quote about adoptive mums on Mumsnet is 'interesting'.

I am both a birth mum and mum to a child by adoption. I am completely my little boy's mum (by adoption) but he does have another mum, a birth mum. Part of modern day adoption is not denying reality. Especially to him. I don't need to go around announcing to all and sundry he came to us by adoption but if there were a group specifically for birth mums, I'd not want to join it in relation to my son.

2BthatUnnoticed 100% true. I access services for me as an adopter and that's fine.

If LGBA can loosen Stonewall's monopoly of corporate diversity money that will be a good thing. But it might take a large stink before people feel they can openly challenge their organisation's adoption of their benchmarking index.

Some young lesbians recently told me that anyone who was bi in their school could be bullied for/ seen as "easy."

I was at the launch! [dances with excitement]