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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

New LGB organisation to replace Stonewall

298 replies

Pam2419 · 11/10/2019 16:41

Any more information out there on this?

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SarahConnorFem · 23/10/2019 10:03

@Juells Thst Video is insane! Thanks for sharing.

ArcheryAnnie · 23/10/2019 10:23

It's really come to something when lesbians, gay men and bisexuals have to set up a new organisation to combat Stonewall's homophobia.

Of course it would be better if Stonewall - which has 130+ employees, compete corporate capture, and more money than god - actually did what it was founded for, to advocate for the rights of LGB people, but if it refuses to, and actually advocates against LGB rights, well, we will simply have to push them aside and crack on with the job.

thecompletenonsequitur · 23/10/2019 10:54

Could have called it 'T break'.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 23/10/2019 11:24

Just reading this twitter thread and oh my.

The T are taking it very very poorly and/or rewriting history (but that's not new...!)

"Nice to know that despite trans and non-binary people doing all the heavy lifting for the movement for decades y'all gonna just try and drop us as soon as it becomes politically inconvenient ✌"

"Needs more T 🤔🤔🤔"

"Fascists. 🐺"

Corker from mimmymum!: "Have you actually met many trans people lately? They’re about as gender nonconforming as you get!"

Pictorial with gun "shut the fuck up TERF" (twice)

"trans rights are human rights" (er, right, what has this got to do with the price of fish?)

And the classic "human rights mean we're connected - it is intersectional. Jobbing off all transgender folk just shows you're not serious about human rights. Be better."

twitter.com/bluskyeallison/status/1186767223555272719

AlwaysTawnyOwl · 23/10/2019 12:20

I'll sign up for a direct debit, if you're reading Simon.

LangCleg · 23/10/2019 12:32

The cuckoos do not like the taking back of the nest.

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 23/10/2019 12:51

The cuckoos do not like the taking back of the nest.
Perfect summary.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 23/10/2019 12:54

I thought it was more akin to an addict realising their enabler is tuning off the money tap.

Yorkshirelass444 · 23/10/2019 12:57

T break!
love that.

Jux · 23/10/2019 13:05

I don't want to be infantilised by MNHQ. I will donate money if I choose to, and if it turns out I have donated to a bad actor then I am a fucking grown up and I live and learn or I carry on donating on the off-chance that at some point I shall have actually helped someone genuine. That decision is mine, and mine alone and I don't need MN butting in on it.

ImFineThankYouSusan · 23/10/2019 13:32

So judging by the tweets, the main ones opposed are males, they/thems and flurries.

They are behaving like they don't have a billion other orgs that support them.

ImFineThankYouSusan · 23/10/2019 13:33

*furries

Damn autocorrect

LumpySpacedPrincess · 23/10/2019 17:50

Oh dear, Owen Jones isn't happy...

PancakeAndKeith · 23/10/2019 17:55

I’ve long felt it odd that trans rights are joined up with gay rights.

Being gay, lesbian or bi is about who you love, who you make a commitment to, who you raise children with.
Trans and queer are about identity.

Apollo440 · 23/10/2019 18:00

If Little Owen Jones isn't happy they are onto a winner. Why would you expect anything different from the cheerleader of Identity politics?

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 23/10/2019 18:37

What is LOJ worried about? Surely it means all the nasty bunch will bog off and leave him and his rainbow friends to their happy little lives?

You'd think he'd be cheering this on.

Come on Owen, tell us why you think its so bad to have the haters leave you alone?

BarbaraStrozzi · 23/10/2019 20:52

AnyOldPrion Miranda is same sex attracted, and described his relationship with Helen (author of the "boy called Helen" blog) as a male homosexual relationship, if I remember correctly).

NB for the benefit of our Twitter monitors, Miranda's preferred pronouns are "he" etc, and it was Helen who came up with the "boy called Helen" title, so I don't think I'm misgendering anyone here.

Qcng · 23/10/2019 20:57

twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1187006381691416577

If I were "cis" I'd be really angry!!
Uh, but you aren't....

AutumnRose1 · 23/10/2019 21:02

I see the knives are out for them already

Brave people, I salute them.

PancakeAndKeith · 23/10/2019 21:04

One of the replies to that tweet says that terfs only barely tolerate bi sexual people.

I’ve never seen that. Has anyone else?

BarbaraStrozzi · 23/10/2019 21:08

I see woke-bloke woman hater of Leeds is on there describing himself as "cos pan" which has a certain whiff of desperation about it.

AutumnRose1 · 23/10/2019 22:16

Isn't there a Hugh chance Twitter will ban it for being transphobic?

AutumnRose1 · 23/10/2019 22:16

High not Hugh
No idea who Hugh is 😂

Melroses · 23/10/2019 22:16

I see the knives are out for them already

It is at the 'leaving an abusive relationship' stage.

AutumnRose1 · 23/10/2019 22:24

A tweet saying "you don't get to chose who you support". I feel like this sums up the whole attitude.