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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Interesting hypocrisy from the TRAs

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Pota2 · 06/10/2019 08:59

twitter.com/joss_prior/status/1180592610894700547?s=20

See, I naively thought that medical transition wasn’t a requirement, that it was literal violence to point that out in the case of Lily Madigan. But apparently it seems you do have to medically transition- otherwise you’re just a faker and a bullshitter. Well, if you were born female, in any event.

Meanwhile Lily lands women’s officer job without a single hormone taken.

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EmpressLesbianInChair · 06/10/2019 09:03

So the TRAs are recognising that anyone who claims to be a woman all or some of the time but has made no physical changes to their body is officially a man? Presumably wearing pink or carrying a gold lame pocketbook don’t count as physical changes? OK, that’s a start.

Pota2 · 06/10/2019 09:05

Well, as I said, it’s probably only applicable to those born with a vagina. If you have a penis you can do anything and anyone who disagrees can just STFU

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donquixotedelamancha · 06/10/2019 09:13

From that thread Joss seems to think that even cross sex hormones don't count, let alone mere social transition.

Odd, I could swear she's argued the opposite in the past. It's almost as if she doesn't argue in good faith.

*Caveat pronounor.

Doyoumind · 06/10/2019 09:18

I mentioned JP's tantrum about this yesterday on another thread. We are told endlessly it's about inner identity and not outward presentation and that's why we can't complain about bearded men claiming to be women without being labelled transphobic. Yet here, JP judges solely by appearance. What does living as a man mean for Charlie not to have been doing it properly?

sarahjconnor · 06/10/2019 09:25

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Tyrotoxicity · 06/10/2019 09:27

Have they updated the rules again? I thought "gender identity" was supposed to be some sacrosanct innate thing that can't be questioned? And that everyone is right about their own and no one gets to determine anyone else's?

So does this mean we're allowed to say "you're not really what you say you are" to trans people now?

DickKerrLadies · 06/10/2019 09:28

So, Joss, you're either a terf or a misogynist - which is it?

DickKerrLadies · 06/10/2019 09:29

Note - I say terf because it's a word applied to anyone who is critical of gender ideology, not just radical feminists. Almost like it's designed as a slur rather than a 'descriptive term'.

OldCrone · 06/10/2019 09:36

What does living as a man mean for Charlie not to have been doing it properly?

Men become women by putting on a dress and demanding to be called 'she'. Women can never become men, no matter what hormones they take or what surgery they have.

It's one of the rules of misogyny.

"Men are whatever they say they are and women are whatever men say they are."

KettlePolly · 06/10/2019 09:43

Given this train of thought Pip Bunce is definitely a man then presumably? Not a trans woman? Dressing up isn't sufficient? Right so.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 06/10/2019 09:46

Trans privilege activist in being full of shit shocker.

Hold the front page.

YobaOljazUwaque · 06/10/2019 09:53

So a person with a female body who has short hair and always wears trousers and a shirt, and rejects feminine decor like jewellery & makeup, is still a woman no matter if she claims to be a man, unless she has had surgery and hormones.

But a person with a male body who may (or may not) have long hair, may (or may not) wear a dress or a skirt and may (or may not) wear jewellery and makeup has no obligation to do any of these, and most certainly shouldn't be obliged to have surgery and hormones, because only their word that they are a woman is the sole evidence needed that they are indeed a woman.

Glad we have cleared that up.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/10/2019 09:59

I kept thinking ‘what does a bloody singer know about all this?’ and realised I was thinking about Joss Stone...

Anyway, fuckwits, all of them. What are they going to demand to inspect people’s crotches and medical records now? Hum. What does stonewall say?

NotBadConsidering · 06/10/2019 10:00

Joss is so desperate to be seen as an important voice for TRAs. But Joss just spouts more and more nonsense and gets irate when people like McKinnon get more attention than Joss. Joss is realising that Joss’s opinion doesn’t hold any weight and is becoming more and more desperate. Poor little Joss. So sad. 😢 Flowers for Joss Flowers

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/10/2019 10:01

Is joss a boy or a girl?

SarahTancredi · 06/10/2019 10:02

They always do this. Every single time some one does something they exposes stuff fir the nonsense it is they throw them out the trans box.

While women of course have to accept anyone who says they are a women as being a woman.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/10/2019 10:04

Finally, we've discovered how we tell someone's gender now that biology no longer means anything! We just ask Joss.

Or, you know, roll your eyes at the blatantly self serving bollocks and ignore. I think I may go with that option.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 06/10/2019 10:06

So.... do we wimmins stand a bot too firm? So now they are turning on each other? Find that weakest link Grrrl!

LangCleg · 06/10/2019 10:12

*Caveat pronounor.

Must. Not. Laugh.

LangCleg · 06/10/2019 10:14

You're all a bunch of cranks.

(Since the Jossling is banned, I feel Jossself needs adequate representation on this thread. I shall take one for the team.)

NotBadConsidering · 06/10/2019 10:18

Is joss a boy or a girl?

Joss seems to identify as a petulant child.

Pota2 · 06/10/2019 10:21

I believe Joss was assigned male at birth.
Such rank hypocrisy and changing the rules whenever they don’t fit the deluded narrative.

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LangCleg · 06/10/2019 10:22

And the "trans community" screams at any suggestion of gatekeeping, yet blames detransitioners for "not being sure".

See the problem yet?

Jossling? Hello?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/10/2019 10:23

I'm sure OfLang is just busy right now and will provide an answer shortly.

It won't be a good answer, but hey, points for effort.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 06/10/2019 10:25

Is joss a boy or a girl?

Oflang (aka Joss) would like to be a girl. But is that enough any more?

After extensive detective work Oflang has declared that Datun is Sarah Ditum and I am Julia Long. (Note to MNHQ: neither of which is correct so I’m not doxing).

I expect the rest of you are our socks because everyone knows there are only half a dozen of us.