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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC Rupaul Drag Quiz

284 replies

GrimDamnFanjo · 03/10/2019 14:22

Online if you want to take it. You translate the drag phrase.
How nice to see that those putting it together didn't think that "fishy" meaning a very feminine drag queen may be offensive....

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GrimDamnFanjo · 03/10/2019 14:24

Of course they didn't! Thanks BBC!

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AngelsSins · 03/10/2019 16:38

This is why I find drag offensive, you can pretend it’s not about mocking women, but it absolutely is.

BeccaStephenson1 · 03/10/2019 17:19

To be fully grown adults and to find something as simple as drag offensive, you should be ashamed. The words and phrases used by drag queens come from a history of oppression and discrimination. They were called slurs and beaten, for you to be offended by the word fishy being used in this context is outright horrible. I hope you aren't teaching your children your old fashioned and quite frankly homophobic veiws

MadamBatty · 03/10/2019 17:20

Thanks Becca, I’m all educated now & suitably chastened & ashamed. I’m going to stand in the corner for a bit.

vaginafetishist · 03/10/2019 17:24

Thanks Becca I resolve to do better.

testing987654321 · 03/10/2019 17:26

for you to be offended by the word fishy being used in this context is outright horrible

Why?

LangCleg · 03/10/2019 17:27

Fuxxake.

backinthebox · 03/10/2019 17:31

Becca, I'm offended that you find it horrible that woman are being offended.

I love the way that it's OK for men in dresses to be offensive about women, but when woman express that feeling of being offended someone calls them horrible. As someone else eloquently put, fuxxache indeed!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 03/10/2019 17:34

It is my understanding that drag queens use the word fishy because women’s fannies supposedly smell fishy - how is that not offensive?

Backinthebox · 03/10/2019 17:34

Just to add that just because someone has been oppressed in the past does not make it OK to be offensive to women. You only need to type 'fishy drag' into google for it to throw back at you that the term derives from women's vagina's being described as smelling like fish. If you can't see what's offensive about that, you need your eyesight testing.

Apollo440 · 03/10/2019 17:37

I too am offended that you are offended that we are offended.

Apollo440 · 03/10/2019 17:38

And that makes you even more horrible.

MadamBatty · 03/10/2019 17:39

Well I’m offended that you’re offended that we’re offended & offended by your offense. I am the most oppressed offended .

I win therefore I can say what I like.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/10/2019 17:40

The words and phrases used by drag queens come from a history of oppression and discrimination. well duuurrrrrr - FOR WOMEN, not men aping women.

HandsOffMyRights · 03/10/2019 17:43

The tagline for the UK show is "May the best woman win." Confused

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/10/2019 17:43

Not woman.

HandsOffMyRights · 03/10/2019 17:47

But they had 1950s dresses on and lipstick.
It's ok though, not like the BBC is complicit...

BeccaStephenson1 · 03/10/2019 17:51

I dont know why I thought I could bring sense to a bunch of women who view the smell of their own genitals more important than the fact that while sexism IS an issue, so is homophobia. Being a woman doesn't make you exempt from also being close minded, you can't just say one groups oppression doesn't matter because at one point in time you would've been oppressed similarly

MadamBatty · 03/10/2019 17:54

How do you view a smell?

Nottheduchess · 03/10/2019 17:54

I quite like drag race. I can’t really see much to get my nickers in a twist about, it’s all about the designs and creativity. Now, if they were then entering a women’s competition then yeah, it would piss me off. If they were using the women’s bathrooms, taking women’s jobs then yes. They don’t get judged on how much they look like a woman because they don’t look like women, but grotesque exaggerated caricatures of women. Actually that’s a lie, some of them are very beautiful.....but still not women.

testing987654321 · 03/10/2019 17:54

for you to be offended by the word fishy being used in this context is outright horrible

Why?

Not seen an answer yet.

TulipsTulipsTulips · 03/10/2019 17:54

I just looked up ‘fishy’ and find the meaning really offensive! Has anyone complained to the BBC?

GrimDamnFanjo · 03/10/2019 17:54

@BeccaStephenson1 I don't like drag very much personally but it was the fact that the BBC thought it was ok to use "fishy" in a quiz online that was grinding my gears.

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KettlePolly · 03/10/2019 17:58

I love Drag Race, always have, but I agree that when you actually think about a lot of it, there's a shiteload of inherent misogyny there, inherited from gay culture. Fishy is a compliment isn't it? But actually, as a woman, it's not that much of a compliment to have a defining characteristic as being your genitals smelling of fish. Yes it's throwabaout comment but it's something I'm giving more thought to. They're not evil bad people, it has more in common with pantomime dames and theatre but there's a few elements that are interesting to unpick a little bit if you want to understand how men view women.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/10/2019 17:59

So men taking the piss out of women is fine. I suggest you look at stats on crimes - homophobic Vs male against women and what constitutes each.

So homophobic crimes may be listed anything from from name calling upwards, male against female crimes from beatings and upwards.

Homophobia is not as bad as it used to be but still exists of course. So that makes it ok for men to parade as stereotypes of the worst of women and insult them?

How does that work then? If you’ve just come on here to ‘tell them women off’, thanks for your opinion, now why not just get lost?

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