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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC Rupaul Drag Quiz

284 replies

GrimDamnFanjo · 03/10/2019 14:22

Online if you want to take it. You translate the drag phrase.
How nice to see that those putting it together didn't think that "fishy" meaning a very feminine drag queen may be offensive....

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PettyPolly · 04/10/2019 05:20

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Agrona · 04/10/2019 06:25

LOL. Women can object to terms they find offensive because that is their opinion.

You can object to women’s objection because that is your opinion.

We all have the freedom to form our own opinions.

Agrona · 04/10/2019 06:27

I find the term ‘fishy’ when used by drag queens to refer to women to be offensive.

That is my opinion. This opinion is based on experience.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 04/10/2019 06:37

The irony of some people telling other people to grow up...

MIdgebabe · 04/10/2019 06:42

So queer people can say what they like no matter how offensive ? Or would racism still be racism?

I didn't think there was much wrong with any of this drag stuff ( mostly harmless). Reading t( defences however has rather changed my mind)

testing987654321 · 04/10/2019 06:48

I smell TERF vibes.

Yet again, wtf are you on about?

People keep coming on this thread and just writing random sentences that they obviously think have meaning but sadly for them are meaningless. Not even arguments, and definitely not persuasive ones.

SophoclesTheFox · 04/10/2019 06:49

Can’t seriously believe that some people are arguing against “you look so convincingly feminine that you just about smell of fish, like a real woman!” being anything but the rankest misogyny.

I’ve been around the gay scene for donkeys years, I’m well aware of the part that drag plays in that culture and history, but I still don’t like it because it riffs off stereotypes of how ridiculous, bitchy, vain and awful women are. Saying that gay men get a free pass on misogyny is like saying that women should get a free pass on racism- it doesn’t work like that.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 04/10/2019 06:53

How does one smell a vibe anyway?

SophoclesTheFox · 04/10/2019 06:54

PMSL at “I smell TERF vibes” 🤣

Questions, questions, so many questions.

Can you smell a vibe?
What does TERF smell like?
Is it better to smell of TERF or fish?
Does that insult work better when hissed across a classroom, because it didn’t have the intended effect on me, as I’m an adult and silly name calling stopped bothering me a good thirty years ago.

Mac1990 · 04/10/2019 06:55

This was an enlightening first Mumsnet experience.

Hopefully your children will grown up to be more open minded and accepting of others than you apparently are.

There's no room for hate, biggotary, or ignorance in the world.

SophoclesTheFox · 04/10/2019 06:58

What has objecting to the term “fishy” as being a misogynistic insult to do with “biggotary”, please? I don’t follow the logic.

toriap2 · 04/10/2019 06:58

Um, Mac, you do know the definition of bigot right? And you are actually showing more hate by telling women who are offended by something that they have no right to feel offended. So off you pop love and tell your mum she’s a fish, sure that will end well

testing987654321 · 04/10/2019 07:14

There's no room for ... biggotary, or ignorance in the world

Oh the irony.

Spellcheck can help with spelling. HTH.

Mac1990 · 04/10/2019 07:17

I haven't once said that women do not have the right to feel offended.

I'm merely offering an alternate opinion.

One that does not foster hate.

I do, however, find it funny that you bolster about women's rights to an opinion yet you push mine away. Almost as if because my opinion differs from yours it immediately strips me of my femininity, and my womanhood, and seems me to be "other".

HandsOffMyRights · 04/10/2019 07:21

Mac, why do you assume all posters have children and use that to scold us, I wonder?

So far we've had 'view a smell' and 'smell a vibe'. Sort yourselves out.

Mac1990 · 04/10/2019 07:22

I feel very attacked right now

testing987654321 · 04/10/2019 07:22

Almost as if because my opinion differs from yours it immediately strips me of my femininity, and my womanhood, and seems me to be "other".

When other women disagree with me I don't feel stripped of my femininity or "others". Why does it have this affect on you? Especially as on a talk board I have made no assumption about you, simply responding to your arguments.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 04/10/2019 07:23

Mac love don't correct my typing errors and then use the word 'bolster' incorrectly. It makes you look very stupid.

Call your mum.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 04/10/2019 07:24

You can just shout her from your room I'm sure.

testing987654321 · 04/10/2019 07:24

Gah. *othered

And *effect

Agrona · 04/10/2019 07:27

I find it funny that people who merely offer an alternate opinion complain about bigotry when people disagree with the opinion.

Especially when the people accuse those who disagree with them of fostering hate.

Women saying they do not like a term fosters hate? Women are so powerful that not liking something foster hate?

How lovely!

BeMoreMagdalen · 04/10/2019 07:28

I hope young people would never accept being called a derogatory name just to avoid being also called a bigot. Pretty shitty worldview you have there - accept this horrible word or I'll call you another horrible word. You should feel attacked, you've set up a nasty choice for women there. I hope no kids grow up thinking that is the way the world should be in the name of peace and love.

Agrona · 04/10/2019 07:31

Sorry. Arghhhh!

I meant “when the people, (or person or human being) who merely offers their alternate opinion accuses those who disagree” etc

Maybe it would be easier to user the word poster or pp.

HandsOffMyRights · 04/10/2019 07:32

This

BBC Rupaul Drag Quiz
testing987654321 · 04/10/2019 07:33

So we've had bigot, hate,terf from the people who think fishy is an okay term to use.

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