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Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)

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GirlDownUnder · 22/07/2019 01:34

Thread 1 here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3632380-Fascinating-tweets-about-JY-s-waxing-case-Read-here-Thread-title-edited-by-MNHQ

This is a continuation of all that is JY and their waxing cases bought against minority women in Canada.

We are a fair way in, and still are no closer to knowing what the final judgment will be, but we have lots of info. and are finally seeing this case, and all the attending issues with self ID, in the public eye and main stream press.

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Destinysdaughter · 23/07/2019 05:29

His response! Grin

Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)
DanaPhoenix · 23/07/2019 05:35

That response was "chef's kiss" from Ricky. The photo of the article is perfect too, just how you would imagine he'd look when first hearing about JY.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 23/07/2019 06:25

yes, that speccie US article is by Meghan Murphy. good to see her getting mainstream journalism gigs

Destinysdaughter · 23/07/2019 06:54

JY is complaining about their treatment on the radio. Replies underneath aren't having any of it tho!

twitter.com/trustednerd/status/1153401816991748096?s=19

IStillMissBlockbuster · 23/07/2019 07:09

Ah nice. Ricky G has just tweeted out that collage of JY's tampon/paedo pervy tweets. Perfect.

teawamutu · 23/07/2019 07:13

Should we have some kind of FWR Awards? Cos if we do, JY is a shoo-in for Most Valuable Player.

Incidentally, the picture I saw of Fiona Robertson appeared to show her with blue hair. Of course it did.

RiotAndAlarum · 23/07/2019 07:38

Niall Boylan has a wonderful radio voice. So warm, and he sounded so friendly and interested. No wonder JY was lulled.

GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 07:41

tea your timing is spooky! Only recently did the 2018 award thread get reopened Brew

And The 2018 Golden Bollocks Awards go to …

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374403-And-The-2018-Golden-Bollocks-Awards-go-to

I believe nominations are open Grin

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ZebrasAreBras · 23/07/2019 07:46

I want to publicly thank Sarah Ditum for this twitter exchange - it is so, so illuminating.

To see these Scottish women arguing that "women do it too, women are as bad..." is so unbelievable. One an MSP, one is the partner of Mhairi Black??? Bloody hell, no wonder Scotland is in so much trouble with this - this isn't even about trans rights any more - these are MRA lines.

twitter.com/sarahditum/status/1153246327771471872

Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)
ZebrasAreBras · 23/07/2019 07:47

There can surely only be one winner of the Golden Balls award 2019 - no one else comes close! Grin

DanaPhoenix · 23/07/2019 07:58

Indeed Zebras it’s almost like a single competitor race. The media, government departments, charities and other assorted contenders don’t stand a chance.

Of course trans status doesn’t afford any advantage in competing, so we are frequently told.

GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 08:04

Zebras NAMALT or women do it too

Have a look at this thread linked earlier by Ova and Lang for more gross examples from an elected representative

https://twitter.com/fionasnp/status/1152597331881209857?s=21

A lovely example from those tweets all in the name of JY

Fiona Robertsonn*
@FionaSnp Jul 21
My view is that it's not remotely up to me to gatekeep who gets to be trans. She may well use her being trans as a weapon against other women, but that doesn't make her not trans. Female predators often use their womanhood as a way to access victims

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thirdfiddle · 23/07/2019 08:17

Look, it doesn't actually matter what genitals he has. He presented himself to these women with a male name and a male looking photo, and implied that he had male genitals. In that circumstance they're bound to have a reasonable suspicion that he's a male pisstaker. Even if he later changes his line to intersex or having a vulva. People who hide behind someone else's (or was it fake?) account then show up looking like a male asking for female services, massive red flag. Women working alone are entitled to protect themselves against people who behave in a shifty way, they don't have any obligation to try to ascertain what genitals said individual actually has (which appears to be hard to pin down anyway) before they take the reasonable precaution of saying no thanks to their custom.

Anyone notice that Twitter don't seem to be deleting the hundreds of people who respond to Yaniv's posts calling him a paedophile? Me thinks even the woke have hung this case out to dry now.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 23/07/2019 08:22

Oh thirdfiddle you ruined it... you talked SENSE!!!!!!

EweSurname · 23/07/2019 08:30

I hope Megan Murphy gets reinstated

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 23/07/2019 08:31

This line from Meghan Murphy’s piece could have been written for Fiona Robertson

those turning a blind eye are only solidifying themselves as enablers — lacking in ethics, integrity, and plain decency.

KettlePolly · 23/07/2019 08:33

Claire Graham's done a great piece on the intersex aspect of JVs claims, sorry if it's already been linked to:

mrkhvoice.com/index.php/2019/07/21/do-intersex-men-have-periods

DanaPhoenix · 23/07/2019 08:48

Sadly Ewe I would be very surprised if Meghan was allowed to return to twitter. They would be effectively admitting they got it wrong. Their egos would not allow it.

arranbubonicplague · 23/07/2019 08:55

Claire Graham's piece is excellent and she must be fed up to the back teeth of having intersex used as a human shield for these social and political issues.


That database list of female abusers - as Sarah Ditum points out, a number of them should be in a reserved category:

twitter.com/sarahditum/status/1153246327771471872

And, sadly that list will grow - the one discussed here on FWR recently, Toni Prince, is listed on the database as female.

theukdatabase.net/2019/07/16/toni-prince-sheffield/

Satterthwaite · 23/07/2019 09:03

Has anyone read Glinner's piece "Another week in the war on women" in Martina's thread? I've just seen it. A comprehensive round up, I'd say!

GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 09:03

Ahem ...allowed to return to twitter. They would be effectively admitting they got it wrong

Cyclepath managed it after a burning hot grease fire Bike

Maybe you have to be the right kind of woman Hmm

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dontdoxmeeither · 23/07/2019 09:30

The radio interview absolutely nails it.

Really whittles it down to its baseline of belief. So many people have been disciplined (?) professionally for their belief in biological sex v gender identity.

KettlePolly · 23/07/2019 09:31

JVs preposterous pool party brought this to mind:
In one of Lisa Muggeridge's videos (wish I could find it) she talks about how in any group, including her social work cohort at university, proportionally some people present in any of those groups would be potential abusers, there to gain access to vulnerable people and children.

Hence the permanent irretractable need for safeguarding however "unkind" it might seem.

She also did a cracking one on motherhood but that's another topic.

GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 09:35

JY promises to become the first transgender Member of Legislative Assembly (MLA)

Im posting without comment - I’ve run out of those for the moment.

mobile.twitter.com/number1akirafan/status/1153518407414927360

Jessica Yaniv @trustednerd
4h
Can someone tell me where I can get a blazer like @MorganeOgerBC has? It's cute! I need it for when I become the first transgender MLA in BC in 2021.
Oops, did I spill the beans.

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