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Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)

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GirlDownUnder · 22/07/2019 01:34

Thread 1 here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3632380-Fascinating-tweets-about-JY-s-waxing-case-Read-here-Thread-title-edited-by-MNHQ

This is a continuation of all that is JY and their waxing cases bought against minority women in Canada.

We are a fair way in, and still are no closer to knowing what the final judgment will be, but we have lots of info. and are finally seeing this case, and all the attending issues with self ID, in the public eye and main stream press.

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Goosefoot · 21/08/2019 01:59

I thought maybe he got mixed up and was trying to imply the person who is supposed to have assaulted him was from a "protected group"?

On another topic, I am getting really tired of hearing the phrase "It's not ok."

GirlDownUnder · 21/08/2019 06:37

Goosefoot you’re right, it’s not ok.

Grin sorry, couldn’t resist.

At least there appears to be no new developments which is nice.

Just as a reminder of the waxing case timeline:

JY and the waxers lawyer have to submit written closing arguments by EOB Aug 27, 2019.

JY then can submit a short reply by Sept 6th, 2019.

After that member Cousineau (‘judge’) will make her finding.
Could be months, but I think there'll now be some pressure as the cases are all over the media. Fingers crossed the latest doesn’t hamper or hurt these cases / findings.

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Jux · 21/08/2019 12:16

So when did he come out with "the gruesome details"? And where?

DanaPhoenix · 21/08/2019 12:46

GirlDownUnder yet another here grateful for your entertaining updates.

Yep. I have to agree with pp, seems to be a lot of people that are jumping on the JY bandwagon with little consideration of how their actions could have a negative effect on the outcome of the tribunal, or any investigation into inappropriate contact with minors or both.

The whole horrible debacle is the car crash you can't look away from, the trashy reality tv show that you watch in secret. Meanwhile the bandwagoners (is that a word?) are all "I'm here to save the day" (gimme some of that attention). They are poorly researched, have no awareness of some of the finer points of the situation.

In the meantime, Meghan Murphy is still banned. I cannot even recall a mention of Elsie, whose amazing citizen journalism had us on the edge of our seats, and more importantly was instrumental in helping bring this to the public attention. Of course, not forgetting the countless feminists that have been shrieking about this for like fuckingever.

It's all so frustrating. Anyway, not going to let it get to me, because I'm heading off to Europe soon where I'm sure wifi will let me access KF. I'm gonna get ALL the goss. I did try some of the tips but Telstra are giving me no love. I saw mention of Proton mail so will check out (and a vpn) on my return. No point atm because wifi sketchy (think NBN pre install work).

GirlDownUnder · 21/08/2019 13:59

So when did he come out with "the gruesome details"? And where?

There weren’t any - I think people were supposed to ask 😂
It’s also a pattern JY seems to follow. Cause a major ruckus because of some ill thought out plan or tweet, gets a huge back lash, feigns an illness, or fall, or blue lighted hospital trip to get back to ‘victim’ status.

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KettlePolly · 21/08/2019 14:03

Just catching up with the last few days of shenanigans. I think Blaire White would be well advised to step away from the pantomime. I couldn't make head or tail out of what her problem was with the "agent" - he's choosing to use the evidence in a way Blaire doesn't agree with? Not sure trying to be in "cahoots" to entrap someone who's so very batshit is a laudable plan, just seemed juvenile and the video was a bit Vicky Pollard.

JY is such an attention seeker you really don't need to do anything - in fact the less you do the more they will incriminate themselves in a desperate bid to be the talking point of the day once again.

GirlDownUnder · 21/08/2019 14:08

In the meantime, Meghan Murphy is still banned. I cannot even recall a mention of Elsie, whose amazing citizen journalism had us on the edge of our seats, and more importantly was instrumental in helping bring this to the public attention. Of course, not forgetting the countless feminists that have been shrieking about this for like fuckingever.

Exactly - it’s so frustrating! We’ll not forget, and it’s why I think the convos and threads we have here on MN are so important.
As well as keep us sane, and talking, it’s a brilliant record of what women have done.
And a reason I get so pissed off when whole threads are deleted because of disrupters.

Woohoo to EU! You’ll find JY on the main page of the farms as there is now a whole forum not just one thread - hang on - OK it’s currently 86 threads, 25.8k comments Shock so you’ll have ummm fun? Grin

We’re getting NBN too, ooo faster than dial up speed here I come! Oh and iiNet doesn’t think we’re china - just saying Wink

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GirlDownUnder · 21/08/2019 14:12

JY is such an attention seeker you really don't need to do anything - in fact the less you do the more they will incriminate themselves in a desperate bid to be the talking point of the day once again.

Exactly! JY said he was coming off Twitter - lasted a few days and in the mean time accepted ‘interviews’ they knew would be problematic and joined KF to spam them porn and period blurgh because JY is not JY unless foot is firmly in mouth.

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DanaPhoenix · 21/08/2019 14:18

I'm sooo excited. But not about the NBN have not heard great things.
Can't switch providers (business related) I've been dropping hints.
Put it this way my DH, back in the day, said this internet thing isn't going to go anywhere. Yep, that's what I'm dealing with. Obviously he does use it (currently researching things to do on our trip) but he will be literally the last person on the planet to go on any social media or forum.
Meanwhile DS2 is downloading latest release movies like a champion.

GirlDownUnder · 21/08/2019 14:27

DH, back in the day, said this internet thing isn't going to go anywhere

Hahahaha ahhhhhh that’s brilliant. I hope you remind him. Lots.

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DanaPhoenix · 21/08/2019 14:34

Oh I do. Believe me he's NEVER going to live that one down.

Jux · 21/08/2019 15:07

Blush I did that too "What on earth would people want to be connnected 24/7 for anyway I said, that's ridiculous, who would do that?" Back in 2000ish. How little we knew.

Oh dear.

Tanith · 21/08/2019 15:17

DH, back in the day, said this internet thing isn't going to go anywhere

Our town planning committee turned down a planning application for an internet café on the grounds that "it was just a phase everyone was going through, like CB radio"!

miri1985 · 22/08/2019 06:27

Not directly JY but kind of adjacent to this whole thing is a timely reminder of how vulnerable women are when providing intimate services are and how few repercussions there are for men
gizmodo.com/theyre-putting-people-at-risk-sexual-misconduct-har-1837439618

FannyCann · 22/08/2019 06:55

DH, back in the day, said this internet thing isn't going to go anywhere

I said similar about iPhones. Why would you want a phone that can do all those things a computer can do? What's the point? How silly!

Re Kiwi farms - there's a lot about JY and it can be an interesting site to dip into. But enjoy your trip. Don't waste it on JY!

GirlDownUnder · 22/08/2019 08:44

Remind me never to ask you lot for futures stock advice 😂

Fanny there’s a whole new thread for JY today - the “agent” Ryan showed up Shock. I didn’t post anything here because after 16 pages it turns out he’s just as bad as Blaire et al looking for a payout and 5 mins of fame.
I def don’t waste all my time on JY, I like to keep a broad eye on the place - it’s very instructive Wink

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WhatTheWatersShowedMe · 22/08/2019 10:11

GirlDownUnder

Not to mention, extremely entertaining.

Jux · 22/08/2019 13:33

One of those JY threads has a lot of food talk! There is a recipe for nanaimo bars which I'd really like to make (I think I might not use "tard cum", I think that might be substituted by custard?), but it calls for Graham Crackers, so I'm going to have to make those first. So today, my quest - should I care to accept it - is to find Graham Flour.......

And then there's this talk of KD, which is 'just' macaroni cheese, but the true experience of KD requires the actual KD product......

So much to think about Grin even without the worry about women's rights and pervs perving. KF is a true example of the gift which keeps on giving.

ConfusedMoi · 22/08/2019 15:45

I've got a BBC Good Food recipe for Nanaimo bars if you'd like it Jux. It uses digestive biscuits instead of Graham crackers (if you're UK based). A friend made them and there delicious! Happy to share it Grin

ConfusedMoi · 22/08/2019 15:46

They're 🙄

heathspeedwell · 22/08/2019 18:32

Jessica Rumpel is talking to the farmers right now if anyone has any pertinent questions they would like to ask her.

ChiaraRimini · 22/08/2019 18:34

Mumsnetters passing on recipe tips from KiwiFarms???
I really have seen it all now!

boatyardblues · 22/08/2019 18:54

Sounds like there is a grudging entente cordiale developing between MN and the Farmers. Grin

Jux · 22/08/2019 19:28

Grin it is an unlikely pairing, isn't it?

Confused, that would be great, thank you! (I will make graham crackers one day, but my small town doesn't stock the flour and I'm loth to look to the internet as if I do that I might as well just get the crackers.... )

Sorry for the slight derail. Let's get back to the serious stuff.

GirlDownUnder · 23/08/2019 00:18

Jessica Rumpel is talking to the farmers right now

I saw that last night (well it was for me) and I laughed. Poor farmers have had JYs neighbour, JYs insider on Facebook, the “great” JY themself, the ‘agent’, and now Jess join. I reckon if BW also waded in they’d faint with happiness Grin.

Sounds like there is a grudging entente cordiale developing between MN and the Farmers.
They are kinda fond of us, they agree with the ‘terf’ position on the whole and (for the monitors) not because they’re bigots, or phobic or any other insults, but just because biology.

Sorry for the slight derail. Let's get back to the serious stuff.
I liked the derail and the tech stories. This story is murky, so a little sunshine feel good.
Im gonna go stalk JY and the farms and see what’s new.

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