Peak Transing

[Apollo440]

This thread on AIBU has been joined by some aggressive TRAs who are doing sterling work peak transing the more delicate areas of mumsnet.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3634784-to-not-want-to-sign-off-my-emails-with-preferred-pronouns

Real TWAW No debate or your c*nts type. Carry on I say!

You have no idea which other names I post under.

Oh I'm sure we have absolutely no idea which position you'd take. It truly is a mystery.

But I don't see anyone threatening to "shoot TRAs".
I've never seen that either.
Why does that make it any better what's happening here though? We're not threatening to shoot people so that means we're OK? How does that even work?

RosesAndRaindrops
Have you recently name changed?

Or should we set up combat threads.one tra , one gc , and only one shall emerge.

There would be a difference in the result depending on whether the combat was of the debate nature or a physical one.

Have you recently name changed?
Why? Does it matter? People name change all the time on here, it's perfectly acceptable on MN.
As long as you aren't doing it to sock puppet yourself of course.

RosesAndRaindrops
Well my username may be memorable, but I don't comment much so to describe myself as a lurker seems to be appropriate. You may think differently.

Well my username may be memorable, but I don't comment much
Maybe you don't, but all I was saying you're not really a lurker as you've disagreed with quite a few posts before.

Roses Ok genuine question for you. If you "don't think transwomen should all be in the mens"

Would you be happy sharing a gym/swimming pool changing room with a transwoman - complete with big hairy old wang flopping about - as you're undressing?

(Not sure I'll get an answer, but I'll take a punt)

RosesAndRaindrops
Not in the slightest. Your style of debate reminded me of someone with a different username but I think you are the same poster so I was just asking.

Damn I was th inking like a woman amongs women, focussing on logic and facts and forgetting the whole reason we are in this sorry mess is that men are physically stronger and use that to determine who is rightand what the best solution is to a problem

People can be rude here. They aren't all "nice". So fucking what? Why should they be?

I was talking about the level of discourse I've found in general about trans issues. My experience is that the TRAs go beyond rude to threatening. They lie constantly (and not about anything remotely debateable, e.g. razors behind stickers). They are happy to dox people and try to get people fired.

And you're worried about people on here being rude?

Ok genuine question for you. If you "don't think transwomen should all be in the mens" Would you be happy sharing a gym/swimming pool changing room with a transwoman - complete with big hairy old wang flopping about - as you're undressing?

Hairy old wang
Yes I would.
Why would I automatically see their "hairy old wang" though?
If there's cubicles like there is in a lot of places?
Even mixed sexed changing villages at swimming pools with both men and females in, I've never had to see a hairy old wang yet but still people object to mixed sex changing spaces?

So is it only sock puppeting if you are being two or more people on the same thread?

If you name change and act as though you have never heard the argument before, so people unwittingly engage, does that constitute sock puppetry?

Oh I'm sure we have absolutely no idea which position you'd take. It truly is a mystery.

You'd be surprised then.
Not everyone who has issues with the tone-stranglehold this board suffers from disagrees totally with all of the general ideas discussed.

But to suggest that you might convince others to join in the conversation if the over-all atmosphere change is "tone policing" isn't it?

They aren't all "nice".

Insofar as I can see, nice in this context is a synonym for compliant.

I'm not compliant.

Your style of debate reminded me of someone with a different username but I think you are the same poster so I was just asking
No idea what poster you're thinking of but i do sometimes name change so maybe you're right, all I was saying people do change names sometimes on MN and that's perfectly OK

RosesAndRaindrops
Two green fruit

(Not sure I'll get an answer, but I'll take a punt)

of course you will get an answer...all the direct questions have been fully explained. Oh no, hang on.

No idea what poster you're thinking of

Think back to an old name you used to have. That should help.

(Not sure I'll get an answer, but I'll take a punt)

of course you will get an answer...all the direct questions have been fully explained. Oh no, hang on

If you look I've just given one.

Think back to an old name you used to have. That should help

I sometimes name change, last time I checked that's still allowed?
Unless it's on the same thread to agree with yourself sock puppet style and then it definitely isn't OK.

If you look I've just given one.

Can you fully explain how you don't believe in self ID, but are more than happy to strip off in a changing room next to some hoary old bloke with his penis out, and not be in any way concerned about it? Surely that IS self id?

Roses

Yes I would

So how would you know said "hairy old wang" belonged to someone that wasn't just in the changing room to perv on women? Just because the man is "vaguely" presenting in a female manner, how do you know he is not there for nefarious purposes?

How do you know said person is ACTUALLY transgender/transsexual?

But to suggest that you might convince others to join in the conversation if the over-all atmosphere change is "tone policing" isn't it?

Feel free to go and suggest that to TRAs.