The kid who argued that there are only two “genders” permanently expelled.

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So the story of the child who stuck to his guns and argued that there are only two genders, ( I’m thinking read sex here.) and recorded the conversation with the member of staff who argued that “not all policies are scientific.” Has now been permanently expelled according to twitter. Wtf. I’m sure the school will say hi him can’t have children recording staff. God forbid the outside world might know what kids are being indoctrinated into.

I sincerely hope that he finds somewhere to continue his education. He's clearly intelligent and I'm proud of him for speaking up.

On the basis of what? As someone on twitter pointed out - a boy who sexually abused classmates - sorry? GIRLS - was sent to another school where he raped a girl.

He's over 16 so they don't need a reason beyond a vague reference to 'discipline.'

It used to be a great game at certain schools: You encouraged as many as possible to stay on to get the capitation, then when the cheque was banked, you started to weed out the ones whose faces didn't fit.

There is a crowdfunder going. I hope he’s going to drag them to court over this.

His parents must be fuming. If it were my son you’d feel the earth shaking in Australia.

I hope he manages to continue his education, and that school miss out on his amazing grades, and I hope the school get fucking flamed for this.

This is appalling. Shame on those who decided he should be expelled.
I hope this story receives national coverage and that a petition starts rousing everyone from their slumbers. It could be the beginning of a big change.

Here's an interview with the young man:

I’m sure social media will have identified (self haha) the numpty who decided on this.

I wonder if it will have any impact on their admissions numbers. It would certainly make me not want to touch it with a bargepole.

I hope the name of the school is doing the rounds it’s astonishing. @MockerstheFeManist I think the school I went to did that weeding on industrial scale 😬

Why has he been expelled? Simply for that comment or is that just the assumption being made? Is there an article about this?

It'll be for making a surreptitious video and uploading it onto the Internet without consent.

I hope takes the matter to court because the legal definitions of sex are clear and I’d like to see the teacher defend his idiocy.

And if a teacher had made a twat of himself at my old school kids would still be ridiculing him now. Thirty five years later we still laugh about a teacher misspelling ‘potatoes’.

Surely he's been expelled for filming the member of staff and putting it on social media. Whilst I wholeheartedly agree with the point he was making, we cannot have kids filming staff. It would sets a worrying precedent if he hadn't been sanctioned for his behaviour. However I do hope the staff member has also been disciplined as well.

The interview says that he was suspended for a week for the filming and uploading and Murray thought that was fair enough. Then the suspension was extended for another two weeks to "allow things to die down", which he also accepted. He was told not to speak to any media and he didn't. THEN he was expelled. He feels that the school always intended to expel him, not suspend him, but kept him hanging on so that expelling him wouldn't get much media interest.

That is a very brave young man in an awful situation. Good point LordProfFekko, sexual assualt is at an all time high in schools and girls are being forced to share class rooms with their rapists but knowing biology is beyond the pale?

It shows how this ideology is being forced onto young people. With the notion that it is a generation thing - they can't stand against it because of social ostracisation and bigger threats such as expulsion. It truly frightens me as a historian. A huge part of Nazism was education and a focus on schools. In the 1930s the curriculum was changed, the textbooks re-written and all teachers had to be members of the Nazi Party's Teachers’ Association, by the end of the 30's 97% - 98% were. Outside school the Hitler Youth became compulsory in 1936, it really was a huge effort to indoctrinate a generation. Beyond school in continuing education in 1933 there was a purge of academics who were either Jewish or didn't subscribe to Nazism and the Universities were essentially captured by the ideology.

I wonder who made the decision to expell and if the decision was taken outside the school.

I understand the initial suspension for breaking school rules, but moving the goal posts after that is pretty poor on the schools part and cowardly if they put their own interests first.

Given he's been expelled, I imagine he's going to find it difficult to find a new school to take him by September as they are risk averse after exclusions. It would be unlikely he'd be able to follow the same course pathway in a college or complete A levels.

Furthermore, the boy has probably been caught by the school's social media policy. Now, the teacher was, in my opinion, abusing his position.

We enter the hypothetical. What if a teacher had been physically violent, or sexually abusing a student, or any number of things we would not deem acceptable and the child had filmed this and exposed it. Would that child be expelled for breaking social media policy? Does this expulsion teach other children to put up and shut up?

The idea that it is worse to bring to light or evidence bad behaviour, worse than the original behaviour, is something employed by all abusers. It is how whistle-blowers are silenced for years. This code of honour amongst the terrible. I always hear 'snitches get stitches' when someone com[plains that their bad behaviour was exposed. It is unjust and ridiculous.

I thought along the same lines as you DrEm, kids will gradually learn not to speak out about gender/sex just follow the set narrative or punishment will follow. People learn they can't talk about certain issues among their friendship groups, within their families because you never know who will speak to the authorities.

The idea that it is worse to bring to light or evidence bad behaviour, worse than the original behaviour, is something employed by all abusers. It is how whistle-blowers are silenced for years.

^ yes exactly

Trouble is, far too many parents approve of tough regimes with no-execptions rules that trample on students' personal identities. Far too many schools sending kids home for the wrong kind of socks, discriminating against BAME kids for their natural hairstyles and pedalling the preposterous lie that no one ever got anywhere in this world without shiny shoes and a well done-up tie.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again modern education is to teach children what to think and not how to think. I would like to gently query would the principle be the same if a kid was to be questioning any feminist ideology or is this support for him a case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend?

Contrast this with the young man who raped two girls at one school who got a managed move to another school.

Where he then raped a 13 year old girl in the toilets.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/9401424/boy-raped-girl-toilets-sex-attacks-other-pupils/

DrEm- this will absolutely silence other children at the school. I’m sure there are plenty of children in that class who agree with the expelled boy who now think they shouldn’t speak out.

What a sneaky underhand approach also- to tell the child he would be back in three weeks if he didn’t speak to the press, but actually be planning to exclude him all along, and just waiting to the press to quieten down. I think he is bang on the money there. I hope this is plastered all over the news this week along with the school name and staff involved.

Since he’s been expelled I hope he speaks to the press. Fuck that school, it needs publicly shaming.