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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police called to home of Boris and Carrie Symonds

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Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 21/06/2019 21:26

Guardian link here

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

This isn't some long ago "oh it was in the past" incident (not that that would make it any better).

This was the police being called to what sounds very like a domestic incident last friday. Right in the middle of the campaign of Boris " the favourite" Johnson to become Prime Minister.

What the actual fuck?

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LizzieSiddal · 21/06/2019 22:22

There’s a recording of the incident according to Sky news.

1tisILeClerc · 21/06/2019 22:24

{Suspicious? What do you mean?}
She was part of the team that got Boris into a position to be PM. A team that told lies and massaged the press.

Chickenish · 21/06/2019 22:25

You can control everything, until something that you can’t control happens.

1984in2019 · 21/06/2019 22:37

This is what you get when running through a field of wheat isn’t edgy enough behaviour for the country

nauticant · 21/06/2019 22:40

The story is that Johnson is prone to the odd late night argument involving wine in which his female partner feels intimidated. Could anyone not living in a cave for the past couple of decades be surprised at this?

If the story was that Johnson secretly worked with underprivileged and marginalised people to improve their life chances then I'd be ready to be knocked down with a feather.

LizzieSiddal · 22/06/2019 00:10

The story is that Johnson is prone to the odd late night argument involving wine in which his female partner feels intimidated.

I wonder if any of his former partners/wives would be prepared to go on record? Probably not.

I fully expect a picture of him and Carrie holding hands, to appear on Sunday morning.

ChattyLion · 22/06/2019 01:03

I fully expect a picture of him and Carrie holding hands, to appear on Sunday morning.

Ugh yes. I expect massive media minimisation of this, blaming her, blaming the stress of the election, blaming Theresa May for standing down...

I feel very sorry for her. 31 is no age to feel you have to be supporting the PM literally whatever the cost to your own personal life. Imagine the pressure that’s already on her. They’re not married- so she could get out now. If he does get to PM and he wants to move her into number 10, there will be a lot of pressure for them to get married. The reality is when the chips are down, literally all the power rests with him.

OccasionalKite · 22/06/2019 01:20

Let's not beat about the bush.

Boris Johnson has proven previous form as a serial abuser of women.

I think Carrie Symonds deserves our support at this time. Whatever she may have done in the past to promote this thug (Boris) - suddenly, she has been exposed to his male violence.

And do we really want our next Prime Minister of the UK, to be an oafish man who is perfectly happy to commit serial and habitual abuse on women?

Coyoacan · 22/06/2019 04:43

I live in Mexico and we've had some appalling presidents, so you have my sympathy. The last one was believed to have murdered his first wife and rented the second one.

Now we finally have a president who is intelligent and has good intentions. The first well-intentioned president we've had in living memory. It is such a different mindset.

RiversDisguise · 22/06/2019 04:48

I hope he replaces her sofa at least.

Sunkisses · 22/06/2019 05:47

I distinctly remember as a child my wonderful dad explaining to me that the reason why it was not acceptable for MPs to have affairs was because it showed a significant failure in their character, that they could not be trusted. This was in the 1970s when we seemed to have different moral standards. Now we have a serial adulterer in the White House, and another serial adulterer about to move into Downing Street. Men who cannot even keep their word to the person closest to them in life

origamiunicorn · 22/06/2019 06:05

When contacted by the Guardian on Friday, police initially said they had no record of a domestic incident at the address. But when given the case number and reference number, as well as identification markings of the vehicles that were called out, police issued a statement

Hmm
NotBadConsidering · 22/06/2019 06:12

When contacted by the Guardian on Friday, police initially said they had no record of a domestic incident at the address. But when given the case number and reference number, as well as identification markings of the vehicles that were called out, police issued a statement

Let’s say nothing comes of this. Let’s say that he becomes prime minister as expected and he and Symonds move into No. 10 Downing Street. In that building there will be police and protection services everywhere. What will they do if this happens again? Or gets worse? Or if she wants to press charges? Will they pretend it hasn’t happened?

BluebonicPlague · 22/06/2019 06:47

OccasionalKite
Boris Johnson has proven previous form as a serial abuser of women.
Do you have a source for that? True, he has proven previous form as a man who serially lets other people down, but 'abuser of women' is usually taken to have a very distinct meaning.
Confused

MockerstheFeManist · 22/06/2019 06:51

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Gone2far · 22/06/2019 07:13

I loath him but he's not an abuser of women. If a woman is stupid enough to have an affair with someone with bj's track record, that's her lookout.
And if my arguments with my dh were recorded and transcribed they would sound worse.
I get it that he is a terrible choice of leader, but we need to address his political actions not his personal life.

BobTheDuvet · 22/06/2019 07:18

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Gone2far · 22/06/2019 07:29

So how do you stand on Martin Luther King and John Kennedy? Both serial womanisers. Both great leaders. (And I'm not saying bj would be a great leader). But I think if you can't fight someone on their political life and have to resort to their personal life it's a bit pathetic.

BobTheDuvet · 22/06/2019 07:33

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Gone2far · 22/06/2019 07:34

Exactly

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Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 22/06/2019 07:37

Whatever the fine detail, Boris is under pressure and under intense scrutiny. He doesn’t appear to be coping well.

The pressure and scrutiny will increase if he gets to no. 10.

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TurboTeddy · 22/06/2019 07:38

BobTheDuvet sorry if I didn't make the reasons for my sceptiscism clear. A PP probably explains my point better,

Unless more info comes out, nobody else SAW what was going on and to be able to hear clearly what was said through 'Victorian' house walls that tended to be quite thick, is more than a bit suspicious. Anyone can throw a few plates around, stamp about and shout.

The idea that two media trained people would so totally forget themselves when one of them is in the running to be the next PM and the other played a part in getting them there seems somewhat unlikely. Not impossible but unlikely.

You are correct that the Guardian have not used the word alledged but then they themselves have not asserted it is Boris and Carrie that can be heard on the recording. Those claims are reported as being made by the neighbour. All we can be reasonably certain of is that an argument took place at the address where they live and the recording evidences involvement of a male and female.

To be very very clear I do not think that well educated, professional women are immune to domestic violence but on the evidence that we have it is a stretch to assume that is what is happening.