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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Why can’t transgender lesbians just date each other?

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Hithere12 · 17/06/2019 01:41

I keep seeing online transgender women so angry a female lesbian doesn’t want to date someone trans, but it begs the question why can’t they just date each other?

If they genuinely believe a trans woman is without question a woman and they are attracted to women then surely this would solve all their problems in terms of finding a partner? They could just date each other? Unless they don’t want to date trans women because they don’t see trans women as real women? Hmm Confused

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Veronicawiththefacts · 13/02/2023 00:29

excuse me, I believe @ClearMoth has talent. You don’t have to be rude if you disagree.

I happen to have an advanced degree in a related subject, and I graduated with top honors. I don’t mean to say that means you know less, maybe you know more to be honest, but I did give of own time to form an opinion on this matter, and while you are welcome to your own, I think clearmoth could do well, and deserves some encouragement.

Veronicawiththefacts · 13/02/2023 00:32

I also happen to feel that grammar and syntax are possibly the least interesting aspects of this language, and that language police like you disenfranchise people who learn English as a second language and still are capable thinkers.

that’s my opinion on the subject, and I still respect you.

Veronicawiththefacts · 13/02/2023 00:33

But I also think if you’re gonna attack each other, and not support each other, that’s a little sad. You all are a community.

Veronicawiththefacts · 13/02/2023 00:35

And I will defend another person and their dreams way harder than I do my own

DarkDayforMN · 13/02/2023 00:40

It’s such wildly odd behaviour to come into a two year old thread and lecture people at length, and then offer to “support” everyone indiscriminately.

I really am not sure about the part-bot thing, even though I invoked the detector. Bots have more conventional grammar, though you could get one to write in that style to throw people off.

I wonder if it might be an extremely inept attempt to mine for womanly confidences of the sort that some TW find so validating.

Or perhaps just a clumsy version of the “helper” personality type that’s desperately trying to avoid dealing with their own stuff. I’m fascinated, in a way. I hope whoever is behind Veronica finds a suitable way to receive the “support” they keep offering. The disconnection is deep.

ElliF · 13/02/2023 00:52

It’s just every third post, and like post after post in a row, is @Veronicawiththefacts talking about herself, the verbal equivalent of how those swimmers described Leah Thomas changing in front of them, standing there staring at them and challenging them to react. This is someone getting their jollies by watching how women react to them online.

tortoiseshellpeppershoes · 13/02/2023 00:55

There are definitely some posts that read like a bot - the syntax varies markedly from post to post.

Veronicawiththefacts · 13/02/2023 01:09

Thank you for finding me so intriguing. Your ideas about me are fascinating.

i don’t care about your validation. I’m not here for your entertainment. I find validation through myself and god, and not others, which I find to be a sort of trap that ensures our power is given to others. I don’t care about your attention. If you disrespect another on this board, however, I will care. That is my boundary. I ask that you respect that.

ElliF · 13/02/2023 01:14

Will Veronica Chatbot talk about horses and fairies, or does it have a human filter who knows not to feed sarcasm into it? Is it capable of complexed concepts like humour? Does it understand cultural references?

ElliF · 13/02/2023 01:21

It’s not a computer program. It’s grammar and punctuation and too poor to be a computer program. Even Microsoft understands basic grammar and punctuation and put a front end on it. I think it’s either someone for whom English is not their native language, or someone of low intelligence swinging their thoughts around willy nilly hoping to startle us.

DarkDayforMN · 13/02/2023 01:23

I don’t care about your attention. If you disrespect another on this board, however, I will care. That is my boundary. I ask that you respect that.

I truly don’t know what the fuck this is but I’m leaning towards enjoying it.

Helleofabore · 13/02/2023 02:03

Curiouser and curiouser. Who is attacking Clearmoth?

Has there been a total disconnect now? Or has an laughing emoji been interpreted as an attack emoji?

Maybe it is emojis that cannot be interpreted?

Veronicawiththefacts · 13/02/2023 02:44

Or I’m just someone who will fiercely defend others, and only step in regarding myself if you pretend to know about my personal experiences, misrepresent them, and then try not to allow me the right to speak about them for myself.

You’re welcome to believe whatever you want about me, but I will tell my own stories because I lived through them personally and they are mine to tell; and if you wish they were different— well to be honest I wish the same as you in some cases, but I can’t choose my experiences anymore than you can.

ultimately I support you all. I’ve learned a lot from you and at this point would rather just listen and support what you have to share.

why do you think you’re any less interesting than I am?

Veronicawiththefacts · 13/02/2023 02:48

If it is because you are just playing out parts in this situation, maybe you should consider just being your real selves as individual people. I’m as fascinated by you as you are by me, guaranteed.

Veronicawiththefacts · 13/02/2023 03:10

if you define yourselves as feminists who reject transexuals, well here you go: You have your chance to be just that. you happened to have one land here who would just love to just support you and have a conversation. Either way, I respect you all and I support you.

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Happylittlechicken · 13/02/2023 05:38

@Veronicawiththefacts is that you Hal? Did you open the pod doors at last?

ChewtonRoad · 13/02/2023 06:56

Purple monkey dishwasher, eh Veronica?

you happened to have one land here who would just love to just support you and have a conversation

You are a talking comfy chair, and I claim my £5.

Happylittlechicken · 13/02/2023 07:19

@Veronicawiththefacts are we talking financial support or are you volunteering to be our emotional support bot?

crunchermuncher · 13/02/2023 07:23

It keeps taking about "support" in a really odd way.

How is wading into a conversation and wanging on about yourself endlessly being supportive?

I don't think that word means what you think it means....

Also, so kind to keep reassuring us that we are allowed to have our opinions. I was doubting myself, but then the man turned up to tell us we are doing ok - phew, the relief!

Read the fucking room Alexa.

risefromyourgrave · 13/02/2023 07:46

Now I am doubting myself, I mean the line from Veronica ‘why do you think you’re any less interesting than I am?’ does smack more of narcissistic bloke than Hal.

Ronnie, we don’t think you’re more interesting than us, and if that’s your takeaway from all this then your levels of comprehension are far too low for you to be a robot.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2023 07:49

Ronnie, we don’t think you’re more interesting than us, and if that’s your takeaway from all this then your levels of comprehension are far too low for you to be a robot.

Perhaps a robot hoover? They're not great intellectuals.

SinnerBoy · 13/02/2023 07:54

So, grammar language interesting the least of are part, eh?

With an honours degree, too boot! Well, well ..

SinnerBoy · 13/02/2023 07:55

Dash it all, I forgot "syntax."

risefromyourgrave · 13/02/2023 07:58

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2023 07:49

Ronnie, we don’t think you’re more interesting than us, and if that’s your takeaway from all this then your levels of comprehension are far too low for you to be a robot.

Perhaps a robot hoover? They're not great intellectuals.

Very true, I have to rescue my hoover far too many times for me to think he has any intelligence, artificial or otherwise.