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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Even when they get what they want....

279 replies

BoxOfBabyCheeses · 31/05/2019 12:41

....they still scream "transphobia!"

UCLA have said that they will install a number of unisex bathrooms throughout campus. These will have floor to ceiling partitions to protect privacy. Now students are claiming that this is transphobia as it implies that trans people are all peeping toms. They get what they claim they want, but they want it on their terms not ours.

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Sexnotgender · 31/05/2019 13:53

We were polite and asked very simple questions. No pile on.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 31/05/2019 13:54

To sum things up:

"Think about what you are saying"

"what... you people are horrible, asking me to think!"

LangCleg · 31/05/2019 13:55

This is... gosh, I can't remember what it is.

Even when they get what they want....
Datun · 31/05/2019 13:56

Mandala6

Well it's incredibly distressing to me, to be told that men are real women, but of course they're not biological women, but they let's pretend they're women, but we need to protect women spaces, but not from those men who say they're women, obviously, and I don't know why, it's something to do with their soul, but an MP who also thinks that is an idiot.

You're just a random person on the Internet, but the fact that someone, who is presumably reasonably articulate, can think in that utterly muddled way is why we are in the situation where a male rapist gets put into a female prison and assaults the inmates.

In 2019.

And they can still maintain their position on a thread that says unless every passing Tom Dick and Harry can watch a woman on the toilet, some fucking man will be offended.

littlbrowndog · 31/05/2019 13:56

Jeez. I just asked what is a woman.

That a hard thing to answer ?

JessicaWakefieldSV · 31/05/2019 13:57

Alright, I'm really not enjoying this pile on. I've purely expressed an opinion. I have in no way tried to tear anyone apart for what they have to say. I think it's really sad I've been attacked like this, and the pack mentality is extremely depressing.
I concede. Goodbye all.

Yes, you expressed a misogynistic and scientifically bonkers opinion on a feminism board and women responded. If you come here and say males have female souls, a horrible extension of gender stereotypes, then expect to get robustly challenged.

Using a term that describes male violence and aggression, often used when discussing how women are abused by groups of men, to then describe women on a feminist board.... well that’s really low of you. I’m glad you departed.

Mandala6 · 31/05/2019 13:57

I've being made fun of and invalidated purely because I used the word "soul" ... a picture of a rock has now been shared? I'm being told I don't understand science or biology.
Hilarious... okay yeah... no pile on. Hmm My mistake. Because I don't want to spend anymore of my time arguing with people with differing opinions to my own and instead get off my phone and watch some Gilmore Girls I mustn't hold my convictions very high hey?

TheInebriati · 31/05/2019 13:58

Dont let men who are perverts in women only spaces. It removes safeguarding.

Mandala6 · 31/05/2019 13:59

@Datun umm... I said I think the unisex toilets should be private and that people saying not to do that is "transphobic" are wrong.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 31/05/2019 13:59

I don't want to spend anymore of my time arguing with people with differing opinions to my own

You're not doing a very good job of that.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 31/05/2019 14:00

Imagine a white person going onto a forum for people of colour to discuss their rights, and insisting to them that white people can have ‘ black souls’. Then telling black people objecting to this appropriation that they’re horrible.

In no other circumstance would any oppressed group be expected to put up with this shit. So I won’t either.

Mandala6 · 31/05/2019 14:01

@CaptainKirksSpookyghost Good point.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 31/05/2019 14:01

Since you are back, Can you answer my question:

How can you tell the difference between a man in a dress and a trans-woman?

Both are able to say the feel "like a woman".

This is why protection is needed.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 31/05/2019 14:01

Often, on forums, you make comments and people respond to them.

Crazy!

littlbrowndog · 31/05/2019 14:02

But but but

Did you expect just for me to agree with you when you can’t even tell me what a woman is

If you believe stuff then I would think you would b3 able to explain why you belive that a man can turn into a woman

EggWrap · 31/05/2019 14:02

I knew that as soon as TIM's insisted on being called women, in any debate on this subject women would be referred to as 'real women' and TIMs wouldn't like it. They want us to be cis-women and for them to be just women.

Datun · 31/05/2019 14:03

I said I think the unisex toilets should be private and that people saying not to do that is "transphobic" are wrong.

Indeed.

Sexnotgender · 31/05/2019 14:03

Come now women. We obviously just need to do as we’re told and be nice.

Back to the kitchen all of you.

IAmAlwaysLikeThis · 31/05/2019 14:03

Mandala, people asked what a woman is.

If someone asked me what a woman is, I can answer.

If they ask what a dog is, I can answer.

If they ask what a carpet is, I can answer.

It's not hard to provide a simple answer for a concrete noun.

People aren't piling on you. They're asking for a response.

SisterWendyBuckett · 31/05/2019 14:03

Our time and energy is being wasted.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 31/05/2019 14:04

If you believe it, then great, but that means you should be able to explain that belief.

You seem unable to explain why you believe it and how predatory men won't use this loophole to gain access to vulnerable people?

BoxOfBabyCheeses · 31/05/2019 14:04

We're not saying that trans women can't feel like a woman - although I don't particularly feel like a woman, just me. We are saying that they are not and will never be women. I don't want a penis in the same room where I will be using the toilet and changing my sanitary products. I don't want someone with a penis doing intimate exams on me.

I'm waiting for a trans woman to complain when they are not allowed to be admitted onto a labour ward for some god forsaken reason that only the woke will understand.

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WhereYouLeftIt · 31/05/2019 14:08

"However do I believe that their soul is that which they identify as? "
Souls. SOULS. From that, I have to regard your belief that TWAW is actually a religious belief. Transgenderism as religion, complete with belief in miracles (what else would a mammal changing sex be?) and souls.

littlbrowndog · 31/05/2019 14:10

Where is my soul and what the heck is it.

Do we all have a soul or do some not.

EggWrap · 31/05/2019 14:10

If souls exist, then they certainly aren't sexed! You need a body for the dirty work of reproduction 😇