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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Even when they get what they want....

279 replies

BoxOfBabyCheeses · 31/05/2019 12:41

....they still scream "transphobia!"

UCLA have said that they will install a number of unisex bathrooms throughout campus. These will have floor to ceiling partitions to protect privacy. Now students are claiming that this is transphobia as it implies that trans people are all peeping toms. They get what they claim they want, but they want it on their terms not ours.

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Sexnotgender · 31/05/2019 13:40

However do I believe that their soul is that which they identify as?

Layla Moran is that you?

Mandala6 · 31/05/2019 13:41

@Datun I don't believe that women's privacy should be denied and I think it's wrong for our fight to retain our privacy is transphobic. I definitely can see that political correctness can be taken too far. However I feel like people kicking up a stink about the bathroom privacy being transphobic would be people that are radically left wing.
It's as possible to be radically left wing as it is to be right and I don't agree with that.
That's a separate issue to my right to believe that Transwomen should be treated just as women are treated.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 31/05/2019 13:42

Their souls?? Is that you Layla Moran??

Mandala6 · 31/05/2019 13:42

@CaptainKirksSpookyghost I'm sure it has. But again... that's a pervert doing something wrong, not a trans person. It's not a valid argument against transpeople, that's my opinion though.

Mandala6 · 31/05/2019 13:43

Sorry guys, the Layla Moran thing is a bit lost on me, I'm not sure who that is.

Datun · 31/05/2019 13:44

Mandala6

Think about what you're saying. What you're claiming.

Mandala6 · 31/05/2019 13:44

@BoxOfBabyCheeses I actually agree with your last comment.

littlbrowndog · 31/05/2019 13:44

Yeah datun

What is a woman. ?

Identity is made up stuff. For the idiots who love it
They don’t actually use their brains.

All a guy has to do is say I identify as a woman then there we go. A woman

It’s as cheeky as fuck disrespecting women

And damaging to women and girls

JessicaWakefieldSV · 31/05/2019 13:45

Real women's rights? Trans women are real women

No they’re not. A woman is an adult human female. That’s nothing to do with ‘souls’.

To be, someone arguing transwomen are women, is like arguing the Earth is flat. We all know both things are demonstrably false. I don’t treat anyone as a woman who isn’t one, that would be utter stupidity.

Datun · 31/05/2019 13:45

Layla Moran, an MP, also claimed she could tell someone's motivation, by looking into their souls. In public, and in answer to how can we tell if someone is a predator or not.

TopBitchoftheWitches · 31/05/2019 13:46

@Mandala6

I'm not implying anything I am asking if you understand how biology works?

Quite a straightforward question.

Mandala6 · 31/05/2019 13:47

@Datun Well Layla Moran sounds like an idiot, and part of the radical left which is damaging to gaining equal rights for LGBTQI communities and Women and minority's races. I don't agree with people like that, they are more damaging to equality than positive.

Mandala6 · 31/05/2019 13:47

@TopBitchoftheWitches Yes I understand how biology works, thank you for asking.

littlbrowndog · 31/05/2019 13:48

What rights don’t the lbgqt have ?

Sexnotgender · 31/05/2019 13:48

Why does Layla Moran sound like an idiot?

JessicaWakefieldSV · 31/05/2019 13:49

Yes I understand how biology works

No you don’t.

Datun · 31/05/2019 13:49

But again... that's a pervert doing something wrong, not a trans person. It's not a valid argument against transpeople, that's my opinion though.

When the only identifier as to whether you are trans, is you saying it out loud, that is a moot point.

According to Stonewall, transvestites and cross dressers are trans. By your logic, men who fetishise women, are actually women. And should be treated as such. Can you imagine?

I understand you thinking that there are very likely, quite a few men identifying as women who are decent and nice.

These are not the man who say they are actually women, nor are they the ones who are trying to erode women's spaces. Many are quite happy to use unisex where they can, or mens where they can't.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 31/05/2019 13:50

that's a pervert doing something wrong, not a trans person.

How can you tell the difference between a man in a dress and a trans-woman?

Both are able to say the feel "like a woman".

This is why protection is needed.

Mandala6 · 31/05/2019 13:50

Alright, I'm really not enjoying this pile on. I've purely expressed an opinion. I have in no way tried to tear anyone apart for what they have to say. I think it's really sad I've been attacked like this, and the pack mentality is extremely depressing.
I concede. Goodbye all.

YourSarcasmIsDripping · 31/05/2019 13:50

Transwomen should be treated just as women are treated.

But they don't want that. They want to be treated better. They want to force women to shave their lady balls and have sex with their lady dicks otherwise they are transphobes. They want women and girls to give up their spaces for them. They want to push out women from women's sports.

They want traumatised and vulnerable women to accept them in rape centres, on women's wards, in women's refuges not just as service users but as staff as well.

They want their "womanhood" to be accepted and acknowledged regardless of how much or how little they have invested in the transition process.

They want to flip back and forth from male to female depending what's up for grabs,what prize or opportunity is being offered.

And guess what? There are many trans people that disagree with the woke "transphobe" stance. In return they are attacked,threatened and labelled transphobes themselves. They're obviously transing wrong.Hmm

MenuPlant · 31/05/2019 13:51

Souls 😁

Fucking hell.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 31/05/2019 13:51

Alright, I'm really not enjoying this pile on. I've purely expressed an opinion. I have in no way tried to tear anyone apart for what they have to say. I think it's really sad I've been attacked like this, and the pack mentality is extremely depressing.
I concede. Goodbye all.

So you can't answer then?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 31/05/2019 13:52

Yet another person who has entered, not been prepared to discuss facts then left when they are unable to answer...

BickerinBrattle · 31/05/2019 13:53

Also in the US, where this particular toilet argument is occurring at UCLA, a state institution cannot make policy or law around people’s souls, whether gendered, Protestant, or reincarnated, as that violates the First Amendment’s separation of state and religion and is therefore unconstitutional.

If gender identity is a gendered soul, UCLA students are entitled to believe that but the university can’t force others to believe in gendered souls or to practice that belief.

Trans rights stops where others’ rights begins.