"I wouldn't even rape you!" - UKIP MP Carl benjamin unapologetic

[IrishGal21]

Another pathetic male trying to intimidate a strong woman

Attention seeking troll. Five star minger who looks like an incel.

Apparently he is married with children. I say apparently, because a brief internet search (Companies House and Rightmove) indicates that until a few years ago he was playing computer games in a rented bedsit.

AGoodWench you can't delete your comments, this forum doesn't work like that.

Nothing you have posted is in anyway similar to 'joking' about raping someone. Furthermore, drawing a public salary does not mean it is acceptable for other people to 'joke' about raping you.

Theatrical and dismissive reaction while on public duty to an (admittedly, in my book, serially irritating) MP asking about issues affecting men such as higher than average suicide rates

This is Philip Davies MP?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/international-mens-day-philip-davies-political-correctness-lost-voice-debate-a7422166.html

“She wouldn't stab (Corbyn was it?) in the back she'd do it in the front. (Luckily I suspect all listening recognised this as rhetoric or metaphor and not a threat of violence.)“

Ah. Sorry- I missed the point where “I wouldn’t even rape you” became a well known metaphor. My bad, as they say.

Putting words in my mouth Bertrand.

Sorry- I missed the point where “I wouldn’t even rape you” became a well known metaphor. Quite! It's not the same at all.

I was pointing out use of inflammatory language as asked by Bertrand.

You are tilting at a windmill here.

Goodbye.

“Putting words in my mouth Bertrand.“
No i’m not. You said that JP was a hypocrite for objecting to these “rape jokes” because “they are both going low”. When asked for an example of JP going low, you said that she had used a well known metaphor for treachery - “stabbing in the back”

Jp's response on Question Time about Cologne NYE was utterly crass and insensitive. Cologne NYE was in no way like Broad St on a Saturday night.
An example of how objecationable jp can be, for those who wanted examples.
And no, it is wrong for her to be trolled like this. I might think JP is objectionable but no mp should be subject to this.

AGoodWench no, I'm not, I'm pointing out the fact that nothing you wrote was in anyway equivalent to or justification for 'jokes' about rape.

Cheerio.

I don't think her response was crass and insensitive. I think it was misjudged. The point she was trying to make is a valid one.

“There is violence against women and girls that you are describing, a very similar situation to what happened in Cologne could be described on Broad Street in Birmingham every week where women are baited and heckled.
We have to attack what we perceive as being patriarchal culture coming into any culture that isn’t patriarchal and making sure we tell people not to be like that. But we should be careful in this country before we rest on our laurels when two women are murdered every week.”

“Jp's response on Question Time about Cologne NYE was utterly crass and insensitive. ”
Well you could think that if you only listened to the first sentence...

Patronising someone you disagree with is such a good look Bertrand. I watched the particular programme, thanks.
For the 3rd time, what is happening to jp is wrong. But it doesn't mean that I have to respect her.

For the 3rd time, what is happening to jp is wrong. But it doesn't mean that I have to respect her.

Speculating about how much you should or shouldn't respect a victim of sexual threats isn't a good look either.

Has this been posted?
Lifetime ban for them petition.
www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-lifetime-ban-from-standing-for-elected-office-for-those-who-threaten-rape-or-violence

Use of trimmed quotes to twist what I said Bertrand..

On a thread about someone speculating whether they would or wouldn't rape a woman, we've been told that:

• we're taking the remarks out of context
• that they are satirical
• the victim is a public servant therefore it's okay
• the victim has used 'intemperate language'
• the victim has said things a poster disagreed with so may not be worthy of respect

Plus an attempt to derail the thread into a debate about the legal definition of rape and the usual 'but women do it too...' shite.

All this to avoid a conversation about the shitty behaviour of a shitty man who should under no circumstances be given any kind of political power.

"We have to attack what we perceive as being patriarchal culture coming into any culture that isn’t patriarchal and making sure we tell people not to be like that. But we should be careful in this country before we rest on our laurels when two women are murdered every week.”

On International Womens Day, Jess Phillips MP reads out the names of those women:

2019

2018
Jess Philips MP House of Commons International Women's Day speech reported in the Independent:
(extract)
"Counting Dead Women
The research was compiled by Karen Ingala Smith, the founder of the harrowing but essential Counting Dead Women project, which aims to ensure that no UK victim of gender-based violence is forgotten.

“Women like Karen face backlash for undertaking such research, and after today I will be told that I don’t care about men who’ve died,” Phillips tells a sparsely populated House of Commons, perhaps proving her point about the lack of attention devoted to the issue before she’s even started.

“I am grateful that Karen Ingala Smith ignores this, and remains on the side of the women who died, not the forces who want to ignore it,” she continues.

“These stories are all in the public domain. As always, the women are of all ages and were killed in violent episodes at the hands of men.

“Violence against women and girls is an epidemic. If as many people died every week at a sporting event or because they had a specific job, there would be a national outcry. These women deserve the same.

“We must all do better to hear their stories and to end the culture of male violence against women.”

inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/women/jess-phillips-counting-dead-women/

2016
www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-politics-35759585/mp-jess-phillips-reads-out-murdered-women-s-names

I'd forgotten that R0wantrees; Phillips really is brilliant.

All this to avoid a conversation about the shitty behaviour of a shitty man who should under no circumstances be given any kind of political power.

Well, I agree with that.

Opinion piece, Guardian by Keza MacDonald:

'The sexist abuse of Gamergate has entered politics. If only we’d been listened to'

The rank misogyny women reported in 2014 has engulfed public life – and one of its perpetrators, Carl Benjamin, is a Ukip candidate

(extract)
Most women who were working in or around the video games industry in late 2014 know exactly who Benjamin is. He was one of the more vocal figureheads of Gamergate, an online “movement” that began when an aggrieved ex-boyfriend spread malicious gossip about his game-developer ex-girlfriend. It metamorphosed into a coordinated harassment campaign against a huge number of women, under the smokescreen of anti-censorship and concern over ethics. It is now impossible not to see Gamergate as a foreshadowing of a disease that has since engulfed political and public life.

What people like Benjamin want, with his disgusting speculation on whether female politicians are rape-worthy, is to bring the rank misogyny of the worst online spaces into public dialogue. It is Trumpian trolling transferred into British political life. People like Benjamin believe in a form of consequenceless free speech that dictates that if women wish to exist publicly, create things or have an opinion, they should expect all the harassment and degrading commentary and ceaseless mean-spirited scrutiny that will inevitably follow. This was the message of Gamergate, back in 2014. It is now the message of a significant swathe of fringe politics, usually packaged with a heavy dose of racism." (continues)

All forms of social media became unusable. Grifters like Benjamin egged on the masses with YouTube rants against women who’d ever been critical of video games and feminism’s cancerous effect on gaming.

He has since expanded the audience he built on feminism and anti-political-correctness by embracing anti-immigration rhetoric, too, making it no surprise that he gravitated towards Ukip." (continues)

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/09/gamergate-carl-benjamin-ukip-mep

UKIP and the Brexit Party seem to be picking up all the disgusting people to stand for them.

It’s a magnet really.